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#1 Rawlo

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 05:25 AM

I need someone/s to make me a site, will be for a mod. Mod is called TWN mods. Creator will require the ability to create the general graphics themselves based on descriptions and consept art that I provide them. I will also provide rendors and other graphics.

I would prefur if whoever is doing this isn't to busy but at this point I will give the job to anyone if they can get the job done properly and wihtout me having to wait to long to see things happening. Priore experience is a must and I want to see atleast one website that you have already done to see the quality of your work.

If your interested in applying for the job or would like more information please contact me through pm, email or msn.

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:11 AM

Any money involved?

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 03:06 PM

Any money involved?


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Posted 08 June 2006 - 03:29 PM

Sorry, but that's just how I work.

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 03:50 PM

Do you ever do something for someone else, when there is no money involved but simply because you are their friend or because you like to do something?

Just curious.

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 04:21 PM

Yhe, he is doing a mod, they are free and he does it because he enjoys it. Why should he pay you to make a site for something thats going to be free anyway? If you enjoy making sites then do one for free like he is doing the mod.

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 05:17 PM

Like what KK and Blaze said, you wont get many web designsers who do websites for free if there is money that can be made. Though im sure you will find someone to do it.

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Posted 09 June 2006 - 05:17 PM

Do you ever do something for someone else, when there is no money involved but simply because you are their friend or because you like to do something?

Just curious.


I enjoy making sites, however just enjoying something doesn't pay the rent.

Yhe, he is doing a mod, they are free and he does it because he enjoys it. Why should he pay you to make a site for something thats going to be free anyway? If you enjoy making sites then do one for free like he is doing the mod.


Yes, I know I sound like a cheap bastard. But I can live with that accusation. It's very hard to find someone who will do something for free nowadays. Especially from the "professional" community.

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Posted 09 June 2006 - 06:51 PM

So when you ask a friend to do something for you, they ask you for money as well? Is there no friendship act towards each other, they do something one time, you the next, for each other?

Yeah, it doesn't pay the rent, but you have fun making it. You don't get paid for playing computer games or reading a book or whatever in your spare time either. If you have it as a job, then yeah it may be different. I don't know what kind of situation you're in.
Just sometimes you do things because you enjoy them and know you will be helping a friend (don't mean this specific case, but in general), not because you want money. Just my two cents.

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 03:25 AM

Do any of you have prior experience in web/graphic design?
Nothing wrong in asking for a payment, after all, Bartimaeus is providing some very heavy demands.
- Someone who isn’t busy.
- Someone who can get it done “properly.”
- Prior experience, must have an example.
- Someone who produce “general graphics themselves based on descriptions and consept art that I provide them. I will also provide rendors and other graphics.”
- Something that can be quickly done.

Sorry, but this charity work for any designer. They are at the whims of a client and really doesn’t stand anything to gain in this venture. Considering the person designing this site might have already paid a couple of tens of thousands of dollars into a web design degree and could also easily find a client that could do the work.
Now not everyone can afford the high price of getting a designer to your website but beggars can’t be choosers and in the end the person demanding the design is better off doing it themselves in most cases.
BTW, I have sometimes charged friends for designs. When they ask me for help they aren’t asking for me as a friend but as a professional designer.
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 07:05 AM

Depends what it exactly is your friends ask. And how much complicated of a site. Whether you have had an official study in this versus learning in your spare time, may perhaps also be of influence. And if you need the money badly or the project takes a lot of spare time, then it may be different.

I just feel it's kind of egoistic to ask for money if (and only if) you haven't been offered it. Also depends on what way you ask. If you need the money badly, I can understand you'd ask for it.

When I get a job (after uni etc) then it matters more to me whether I like the job, not that I make lots and lots of money off it. Money alone doesn't garantuee happiness.

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 09:14 AM

i might be able to make u a site but im not gurentteeing i'll be able to do all the content things etc. as i simply do not have time to do so. If you want previous expereince i have loads so just ask and i can deliver but i can tell u now i will prolly be able to do the front page and thats about it sorry :(

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:33 PM

It's just the demands are fucking stupid considering the lack of professionalism and lack of information shown by the topic maker.

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:00 PM

Calm down Torn, he isnt the most professional designer no, hence why he is asking for someone else to do the design.

I find it anoying sometime when someone wants something that isnt explained very well so i just talk to them on MSN to understand it more.

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 02:07 PM

Money makes the world go round, I always charge for services to my friends and they will charge me if I need theirs. I see no problem if Tree can make a profesional job of it.
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 03:54 PM

...or you could just get a job and do a favour to your friends instead.

I'm annoyed not because he's asking someone else to do it for him, it's because of the WAY he's asking for it. He has provided little to no information and expects someone to do loads. It's incredible. He's like 'I don't want to wait'. Well, if you want something done, you'll have to.




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