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#1 Blodo

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 12:38 AM

I own two computers. One is connected to the internet directly, the other is connected to the mentioned one and uses the windows shared connection thingy. On the one connected to the internet, there are two mobo-integrated 10/100 mbit network cards. Both computers use a win xp professional with service pack 2.

So I'm doing something on my main computer, when - lo and behold - the other one (the one connected to mine) suddenly lost connection. It looked almost as if the cable was dead. Except for the fact that when I turned off the terminal computer, my server showed it can connect to it. But if I as much turned it on it already showed me there is no connection. Then when I turned it off again it was dead anyhow. I updated my network card drivers - nothing. I turned off my agnitum outpost firewall - nothing. I tried using system restore - it said "fuck you" because it couldn't restore my windows for some reason. Windows event log shows this whenever I restarted:

10005: DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service upnphost with arguments "" in order to run the server: 
{204810B9-73B2-11D4-BF42-00B0D0118B56}

Checked my services. upnphost is turned off. Tried turning it on, the errors in the event log stopped showing. Still no connection though. This showed up as well:

4202: The system detected that network adapter \DEVICE\TCPIP_{5D2CEB66-E70E-4D16-AB3C-04D1E48D0C56} was disconnected from the network, and the adapter's network configuration has been released. If the network adapter was not disconnected, this may indicate that it has malfunctioned. Please contact your vendor for updated drivers.

Any idea what's going on? This just sorta happened on me out of nowhere. I didn't even install beforehand and so.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 03:58 PM

Hmmm, tried resetting the IP settings seeing as your running SP2

try this guide

http://support.micro...b;en-us;Q299357

The next thing is to try changing the network card and cable, uninstall them and reinstall the drivers.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:34 PM

I tried uninstalling, reinstalling, moving the card to a different pci slot, ip resetting etc. None worked. In the internet connected machine I couldn't move them since theyre built in to my mobo, but I uninstalled and installed the latest drivers here as well. I'm almost certain this is a problem with the one with the mobo integrated network devices. Some sort of conflict probably, which is interesting since it just happened on me while I was working. I wasn't even using the connection to my other computer at that moment. Even more interesting so that it's somehow connected to universal plug and play, which is just a huge security hole.

I sense spyware/trojans... Can't make out where to look though. No strange items in my startup or the process list.

Edited by Blodo, 15 June 2006 - 08:34 PM.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:39 PM

Hmm is a reinstall out of the question, its the quick 100% way of effectively fixing any problem. A repair install of XP may do it too.
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#5 Blodo

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:02 PM

Obviously, but this would be like the 3rd time. Every time this problem happens sooner or later, and i'm just frustrated over the perspective of screwing around with a reinstall every few weeks or so. Especially interesting is the fact that it is always my second network adapter that stops working. The one that is connected to the internet always works flawlessly.

Can't be physical damage if the system reinstall magically makes it work again.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 09:13 PM

Must be drivers, you using any firewalls and perhaps getting a router or simple switch might help prevent the problem.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:00 PM

Im using Agnitum Outpost, I didn't change anything in it when the connection vanished, I turned it off and kept it off for large amounts of time when I was testing. I don't think that's the issue. The device manager looks perfect as well.

About the weirdest thing yet is that the internet connected computer detects the connection when the other one is turned off. But if i turn it on, the main machine immediatly tells me that there is no cable inserted.

Definatly not the drivers as I used old ones from my vendors driver cd for a long time, now that it stopped working I uninstalled those and installed the newest version of them that I could find on the net. So it's almost definatly not that.

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:05 PM

Hmm tried using a switch or router?
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#9 Blodo

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 12:36 AM

I didn't since I don't own one so it's kinda hard to test.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 01:55 AM

I would suggest purchasing one. Especially since they don't cost that much. It should remove your all your problems.


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Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:05 PM

Check and see if your DHCP is turned off in services, Type services.msc and look for DHCP and make sure it is Started and on Automatic.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:54 PM

Obviously it's turned on since I wasn't messing around when my other connection stopped working. And it didn't turn off like magically. Besides I checked several times in the few days that I was trying to see how does upnp connect to all that.

If the dhcp was dead, the other computer wouldnt be able to connect, but the card would detect the cable plugged in. It tells me that the cable is not plugged in even though it is. So it's obviously not dhcp.

Anyways I ordered a switch today. Maybe that will help.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 04:43 PM

Actually, My windows services fail all the time. Even if I am not using them... So they can turn of magically.

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 01:47 PM

Ok my switch arrived. I've pinned it all up and the situation looks like this:
- my server is connected to the internet - works, connection to the switch - works.
- the terminal is connected to the switch - but doesn't work.

.. well ok not entirely. When I boot it up I wait for like 5 minutes and after that it graciously detects the connection, but windows says it's limited somehow. Not that I can connect to the server anyway.

Now my server sends out packets to the terminal all the time, but these never get routed back as there are 0 recieved packets on the server from the terminal. But the server maintains there is full connection.
The terminal won't even bother sending out packets since windows assigned some bizarre ip, so my assumption is that it never even got to the switch.

Now my question is: Is it possible that the network card in the terminal died on me? Or is this still a windows problem?

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#15 chemical ali

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 03:13 PM

Looks like faulty network card, get a new one and do a full reinstall of windows to ensure any problems are ironed out.
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#16 Blodo

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Posted 29 June 2006 - 02:16 AM

Nope, not a faulty network card. Definatly a windows problem, because I took my card out and went to a friend to check. Worked with him. I also have a 5 port switch, which frankly didn't change a thing.

I reinstalled the system on the second machine and now i get a 32003 IPNATHLP error along the usual 10010 DCOM errors. Anyone have any idea how to solve this without removing the system on my main machine? I just can't be arsed with the hassle.

I scanned the main one for spyware with 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spy-bot and Bazooka), each turned with nothing more than tracking cookies, which are harmless. So it's not spyware, nor it ever was. My firewall does an exceptionally good job at keeping those out.

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(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.





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