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#1 Hostile

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 04:01 AM

Give this nation a chance to rebuild and just back off for Christ sake. Even I'm at the point of defending this nation in it's rebuilding stage....Just let Atlantia alone....

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 04:06 AM

You don't have to be involved in this situation, you know. If you don't want to be, then peachy.

BTW, I'm moving this to diplomacy.
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Posted 16 June 2006 - 10:03 AM

OOC: I find that signature a little bit offensive o_0 Just because we're throwing political weight around means nothing. Crave and the ISAF are doing likewise, if you haven't noticed...

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 07:33 PM

OOC: I don't find it offensive because I can't seem to find what the Three Stooges is about :blink:. Ignorance is bliss :p.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 10:35 PM

OOC: I find that signature a little bit offensive o_0 Just because we're throwing political weight around means nothing. Crave and the ISAF are doing likewise, if you haven't noticed...

OOC: It's called humour Ash. :D

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:18 AM

OOC: It's not exactly like they are poor- They just screwed Pyth out of Trillions, for god sake.

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:25 AM

OOC: However I've just undergone a violent revolution. Do you guys know the revolutionary cycle? The old regime is overthrown by the people, cleansed in conflict and blood, and then from the ashes a dictator arises. After the dictator dies or goes out of power, order and balance is restored.
The big issue isn't money, its political strife. If you fuck with a country undergoing a revolution (E.G. Vietnam, Russia in 1919), more people are going to die, and most of them will be innocent.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:34 AM

The cycle seems to get always caught on one speedbump. The dieing or disempowering of the dicatator. :D Look at Castro. From what I've heard, parts of his body have actually fossilized and he's still around. ;)

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:41 AM

OOC: That's a communist revolution though. This formula was created using the French and American revolutions as examples, and was devised by a British historian in the early 1900s. And actually, Cuba and Russia are good examples. For them, dictatorships are normal. Russia has never had a truly democratic government until now (Unless you count Kerensky, which you really can't...), and Cuba was run by the US backed "dictator" Fulgencio Batista.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:49 AM

I don't think you can count Putin as democratic anyways. He can pretty much do anything he wants. And they are that close to calling him tzar anyways.

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 12:52 AM

OOC: Yeah I know, he's even got a bulawa and everything. He's never going to stop being president, he might not be a dictator in name, but neither was Saddam Hussein, nor Khadafi, nor Stalin, nor Hitler (Kinda, but he was officially Chancellor), nor Castro.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:39 PM

To suggest every revolution results in a dictator is absurd.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:45 PM

While thinking of your last post. I actually can't think of any revolution that did not result in a dictator.

I honestly can't....

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:48 PM

That's because you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:51 PM

OOC: Give some examples, if you think you know everything so well.

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 07:52 PM

Spain, Grenada, Nicaragua for a start. If you want to be very pedantic, the agricultural and industrial revolutions.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 09:37 PM

Spain: Franco... are you insane?
Grenada: Bernard Coard... considering the revolution can be said to have never really ended due to a period of unrest in the country.
Nicaragua: Somoza, in this case during and before the revolution.
If you were familiar with the theory, you would know that this applies to after the revolution, or during the revolution, and is not so literally defined. It is a period of transition which eventually ends up bringing the country back to a level of normalcy. And you need to realize that, as I had stated above, this applies to most revolutions, and was developed in the early 1900s. Hostile's not an idiot, you just can't read.
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Posted 17 June 2006 - 10:21 PM

Franco was on the opposing side of the revolution. Franco's revolt was a coup d'etat in response to the actual Spanish Revolution.

The other two were leaders, not dictators. If they were dictators, so is every president and prime minister in the world.
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