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Posted 14 September 2006 - 03:06 AM

I'm not a southerner, I'm a Texan. I don't say 'nigger', I say thier name, or if I don't no thier name, I say "Dude.." or, "Hey you....yeah the guy I'm pointing at...".....

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:18 AM

my last post was more oriented against my own replies, as i believed you were replying to me. but you werent so it doest really matter.

southerner!= texan? false

besides, your opinions here are pretty much racist if the meaning hasnt changed lately...

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:00 AM

They certainly are. The Saudis run a nice, tightly regulated autocracy and they make money, unlike any other government on the planet.
We all have this good faith relationship that we're all in debt and we'll all ignore it until it can be paid off, putting us further into debt. Saudi Arabia's out of that club, and soon China will be too.

And I am certainly not a racist. Read my post again, if you don't understand it, shoot yourself. And there's nothing such as racialism.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 04:03 PM

http://caselaw.lp.fi...on/amendment16/ The actual law/amendment itself.
http://www.usconstit...nstamnotes.html How each amendment passed.
http://www.lexisnexi..._howitsdone.asp What does it take to amend the US Constitution.

You're not allowed to lie Tom. 2/3 of the states much accept it for it to happen. How can you say most states didn't do it. You are incorrect.

I'm sorry hostile, i was wrong. I guess thats what i get for going back to the lazy way of "research" and only reading a few similar paranoid sources rather than a larger range of sources. However the argument of debt in america caused by the federal reserve and private bankers still stands.

They certainly are. The Saudis run a nice, tightly regulated autocracy and they make money, unlike any other government on the planet.
We all have this good faith relationship that we're all in debt and we'll all ignore it until it can be paid off, putting us further into debt. Saudi Arabia's out of that club, and soon China will be too.

And I am certainly not a racist. Read my post again, if you don't understand it, shoot yourself. And there's nothing such as racialism.

For once i look at spences post and find myself agreeing. It is not racist to suggest other races have different ways of running things either. Is it racist to state that "all terrorists are muslims"? People need to see what racism really is rather than fearing talking about different races generally just because they might be viewed as racist. If i said "poor african americans" as in talking about certain areas of the US, is that racist? Is it racist to then say "all muslims must be converted to christianity"? Depends what peoples perceptions are, but i'm quite sure its obvious enough to tell the difference.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 05:06 PM

You're being just as bad. Now you're twisting my statements like the media...
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:19 PM

Well, everyone is racist. Then you go off and say your not, which is a fucking lie. I admit that I'm a racist because I'm an honest person (plus I'm cool.) .

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:15 PM

That's like saying we're all African. Extraneous information (Or as I call them, idiot facts, because they're pointless and only make people feel smart).

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:21 PM

That kinda didn't make sense...

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:38 PM

It makes perfect sense if you understand the origins of humanity.
You think you're all smart because you use illogical technicalities.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 11:28 PM

I didn't catch that either....

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 12:21 AM

he's saying people like the sound of their voices, even though whatever they say has no root in real life :)

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 02:31 AM

ooooooook

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 11:16 AM

Being anti-israeli is not being racist. We're are not mad at them because we think they are an "inferiour race", we're are mad at them because we think they made some stupid decisions.

Edited by Cossack, 15 September 2006 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2006 - 11:40 AM

I was trying to actually compare spence, not twist your words. To be anti country, like Cossack, thats not racist, but to say you hate jews is. I don't understand why we are debating if being anti israel is considered racist. What people mean from anti israel, is that they are anti israels actions and believe the existence of the country has caused more problems for the people in that region than good.

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 02:15 PM

well its the main argument that Israelis use against people who critizise them.

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 04:14 PM

Yes i know, but its not true is it? Why do you think people get punished for saying that they believe the holocaust was a hoax? Alright, personally that can be very upsetting, but i'm very sure this generation in israel at the moment does not care about the holocaust anymore, like this new generation in the west doesn't care much for World War II either.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 04:28 AM

But, they care that they are about to be annialated....off the fucking map.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:34 AM

the word annihilation is something that they picked up from the holocaust aswell. its another way to point to ww2 and say that they have to be allowed to kill alot of people because of the monstrosities that happened against them.


firstly, the armies that attack Israel would have the opportunity to beat that said army, the worlds 4th biggest military army. how they would do that in 5 minutes and wipe out everyone in Israel is beyond me. naturally a nuke could do it, but we all know that a nuke is not something that you go around playing with unless you have a deathwish.

it is not plausible that anyone would launch a large scale attack on Israel if they realized that their philosophy on how to stop their troubles only make more trouble.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:42 AM

If they got annihilation it would only be because of another fascist-religious war. The middle east is renown for them. The consequences would also be of their own and our own. We have continued to let out countries run its own zionist foreign policies, the people of israel has allowed its leaders to wage war continuously since its existence and the peoples of the surrounding countries have allowed their governments get so full of hatred towards Israel. Again we are all still responsible for it if it happens. People are just so indoctrinated in this region.

I don't want it to happen, but if it does it is only due to the continuing build of tension and hatred in that region since the end of World War II.

If Iran used nuclear technology on Israel, israel would respond and i'm quite sure other countries might also respond. Its not just as simple of "israel getting wiped off the map." If Israel goes, so will iran, most likely syria and maybe even part of Iraq and Afghanistan. The middle east would become nothing more than glass and a nuclear waste ground.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 05:32 PM

well that would depend on the amount of nuclear fallout left behind. i'm not too sure that normal nukes are the worst radiation spreaders. if you use salted nukes and whatever you can probably count on a bit, but some nukes are designed to just blow up and not leave alot of trouble behind.

if any country attacked Israel after a standdown or a political change where they would try to make peace, they have deserved to meet the fate that they make themselves. if Iran attacked unprovoked, they would get an answer. theres no question about that.

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