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Posted 22 December 2006 - 04:31 AM
Leave it as swords. As much as we'd like to keep to the books, the Rangers look better with swords and it puts less hassle on Celeglin.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:34 AM
I didn't say to put it in, just that they used spears. not sticks 
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 06:56 AM
Fair enough, but I think this thread is getting to an extreme level of spam.
...The Journey doesn't end here; death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores...and beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise...
...Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder...
...Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom... ~ Gandalf the White, The Return of the King
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 11:24 AM
oh, and btw, you know what this thread's all about? Rangers
also, Cel hasn't been here to give an official answer yet
also, Cel hasn't been here to give an official answer yet
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:39 PM
I'm sure Celeglin is not going to give Rangers toggle - it would ruin the balance of the game.
Let's wait for Celeglin's reply and finish this topic.
Let's wait for Celeglin's reply and finish this topic.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:53 PM
In the books they had spears and bows.........
No. In the books some used spears, some used bows and they all carried swords. And you don't need thousands of years of practice to use a bow and sword..
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 03:40 PM
I didn't say they didn't have swords, their main weapons are spears and bows
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Edited by Elvenlord, 22 December 2006 - 03:41 PM.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 04:49 PM
Nah...Swords and Bows. Its easy to practise with both sword and bow and its hard to practise with spear and bow....oh and impossible to bear both for they are big weapons. Not like good ol' swordy. 
I'd love them with sticks though...looks like more nature-like. 
I'd love them with sticks though...looks like more nature-like.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:40 PM
You don't kill armored enemies with sticks...
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:47 PM
And you don't need thousands of years of practice to use a bow and sword..
OK, you don't need thousands years to learn how to fight with bow and sword, but Elves had. Ranger can't get toggle because of balance of the game. They were more skilled in using bow, too.
And there's no animations for Rangers with spears, I guess.
Edit: Well, Celeglin can always give Rangers clubs. Not suitable, but natural, and big, heavy club would knock armoured enemy unconscious.
This discussion is becoming weird...
Edited by swan, 22 December 2006 - 05:54 PM.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:52 PM
Where does it say they were more skilled in using bows?
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 01:00 AM
It doesn't, probably. They just had more practise at it because they would always attack at range, relying on ambush to confuse and disorganise their foes, so most of the time they wouldn't have come to a melee.
...The Journey doesn't end here; death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores...and beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise...
...Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder...
...Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom... ~ Gandalf the White, The Return of the King
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 02:52 AM
I agree with Olorin, they reley on ambushes and creating chaos to win 
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 04:42 AM
Good, someone agrees with me . But if you think about it logically, that's what would happen.
. But if you think about it logically, that's what would happen.
Edited by Olorin, 23 December 2006 - 04:42 AM.
...The Journey doesn't end here; death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores...and beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise...
...Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder...
...Stand, Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom... ~ Gandalf the White, The Return of the King
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 01:47 PM
*waltzes in*
No toggle for Rangers. No spears either.
No toggle for Rangers. No spears either.
That is going to go, and to hell with balance. Looks bloody ridiculous.the rangers have ... knock-back with their swords
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 05:26 PM
Can you increase sword damage to make up?
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 07:08 PM
Ranger have powerfull attack actually. They don't need such bonus.
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 07:10 PM
But without the knock back they will be torn to shreds, they need something for balance
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 07:24 PM
*waltzes in*
No toggle for Rangers. No spears either.That is going to go, and to hell with balance. Looks bloody ridiculous.the rangers have ... knock-back with their swords
The rangers don't need ANY, I repeat ANY changes at all! EA changed them perfectly (not perfectly but they're balanced in 1.03). And why throw away balance? I think it looks cool and it IS balanced.
But if you do change it :( then increase their sword damage at the least.
Seriously though. Rangers are fine.
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Posted 23 December 2006 - 08:43 PM
This knockback doesn't make them balanced, but overpowered. Maybe reduce their cost to 550 to balance again?
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