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[Nazgûl]

EDIT:
Changed topic from:
"Finished hero and/or unit ini's...?"
and desciption from:
"Are there any ready to use new units out there?"
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I hope this is ok as a topic? If posted in wrong forum, plz move


I had a though the other day...
Since there's SO many good coders/modders out there, isn't there a chance that someone has made a compilation of heroes, ready for download? I mean, ONLY heroes - either modified or new, but sort of "ready to install" or edit into your mod? I'm just curious since there seem to be quite a bunch that use Gothmog for example in their mod. Or have they all "created" him completely by own hand (from the hidden code in EAs code)? This goes for units too... Finished and ready to use new units would be just great.

Or are all heroes and units strictly bound to a certain mod, always? A website with free (or why not for a small fee) downloadable hero and unit ini's for modders would be awesome

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 January 2007 - 03:42 PM.

[Fingulfin]

Most people keep their work to themselves, until the mod they are working on is released. I have a few packages of ready to use units, but I don't readily give them out for free I have one handy that I am willing to pass out though; it only took me 10 minutes to make.

Behold, BFME I Haradrim! All you have to do is follow some basic instructions, and you have some Haradrim ready to build (you just have to make a commandbutton to build them).
 Haradrim_Lancers.ini   34.28KB   95 downloads

Edited by Fingulfin, 28 December 2006 - 06:17 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Coool, thanks man! I might I ad, I would gladly pay for finished units though

PS, checked your PMs? (answer there if U got any)

[Hard_Sander]

You could check out Vapulas Hero Mod. It adds a bunch of herous, but I don't think it's updated.

You could also use one, that EA didn't use, like gamling, he's already ingame, just unfinished.

Edited by Hard_Sander, 28 December 2006 - 09:17 PM.

[Pixel]

So..... You want fully coded units with models/textures/binded and ready for game?

[Nazgûl]

Coool, thanks man! I might I ad...

Huh? Sometimes my keyboard doesn't type what I want it to... or maybe my fingers have a life of their own *lol* AND might I ad... was my intention

Flame: Wanting is a word I'm careful with... Wishing is better. I don't think that anyone would gladely give away their work, but in a way many do anyways since mods are moddable But I would never STEAL anything, cause I get that alot myself in my work.

But yes, I would wish to find nice looking useable heroes to ad to my mod if possible... and I just wanted to check if someone maybe had a compilation of such (with approval of creators). But totally understandable if there's no such thing

Personal wishes are anyways:
- Gothmog (yes the third age orc leutenant, not the first age Balrog)
- Celeborn (like he looks in the campaign)
- Galadriel without ring (again, like in the campaign)
and last but not least:
- Fellbeasts WITHOUT Nazguls on back - only fellbeasts.

But, there's a lot one could wish for. That doesn't mean that one always finds it

Now I'm gonna serach the forum for a tutorial on re-skinning.. after all, I've been an artist for 20 years or so, so why not use that here as well... hehe. Any tips on the obove (especially Fellbeast without Nazgul)... or tip about good tutorials on finding the textures and redoing them, would be great

[Hard_Sander]

I guess you don't have the RotWK expansion? Gothmog's in there. Galadriel shouldn't be hard too, search the forum for what makes an hero a ringhero, then you could change that. Celeborn is just an elrond with different skin. But because he's already ingame, it shouldn't be to hard to take him out? I believe the fellbeast without nazgul can only be done by creating a new model by cutting him out of the complete model.

[zimoo]

I would have thought that the rider was a seperate mesh to the fellbeast, so it should be do-able only by coding.

[Nazgûl]

I would have thought that the rider was a seperate mesh to the fellbeast, so it should be do-able only by coding.

That would be awesome... I want a couple of them for Isengard you see...
I anyone knows where to begin, plz let me know

[Lauri]

That would be awesome... I want a couple of them for Isengard you see...
I anyone knows where to begin, plz let me know

begin? heh, more than that


Hope you know about scripts at the bottom I added what's going into two different scripts thingies, and if you don't know about scripts, then here we go.

They are in Data.big, so you might wanna extract that and if you still don't use the -mod command, silly you but still, the scripts goes into data\scripts. in the -mod way, you only need scriptevents.xml and scripts.lua, but if you still use the old way, and silly you for that, you have to have all the files, and move the data.big another place.
note also, that in scriptevents.xml you must have it before the </SageLuaScriptSection> wich is the very end. so you make sure to add it a line or two above on the scripts.lua, you can add the code wherever you want

of course, I didn't throw this all to you, you still have to do the most important thing.... the playertemplate

EDIT: of course, BFME2! well, it's updated now, should work now *yes, I did think it was BFME, but Nazgûl only mods BFME2 *

Edited by Lauri, 29 December 2006 - 04:48 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Lauri - THANKS man!!!

I'll get right on it! Saruman will be so happy *lol*
Yeah, my mod is based on a mod that uses the "remove ini.big and replace with the map ini under the map data" type of mod! It works for me... but I'm thinking that I wanna alter it to a -mod when it's finished if possible

It's easy for me to find all the files quickly now though (i'm not so experienced yet)
And yeah, I only work with BFME2... the other one just collects dust nowadays

[Phil]

Lauri, you know that you don't have to use scripts for that, right? It would have been miles easier with a subobjectupgrade where you just hide the mesh through a granted upgrade

[Lauri]

yeah, but I didn't know that code in my head, and I didn't find it But yeah, now that you say it, I could use the Upgrade_IsengardFaction

[Nazgûl]

Hey, don't confuse things! *lol* (but I'm sure you're right) hehe

Lauri - it worked like a charm, and you know what... I just edited right inside FinalBIG (it's own edit function) and resaved the whole .big file. I tried them out and they worked and looked perfect - how did you get that cool saddle on his back?

Next wish: darker dirtier rusty looking Uruks! (like in the movie)
I think the Uruks in BFME2 looks like "knights in shining armor"... I found the texture for one of them (I think the regular warrior) in one of the Textures files. Would it be possible to extract it, edit in Photoshop and reinsert into the big file?

Edited by Nazgûl, 30 December 2006 - 12:19 AM.

[Lauri]

The saddle is on the beast you can also make it more skeleton'ish by removing the WINGS instead of NAZGUL_SKIN (or whatever it was or by adding that too so, if your up for experimenting... )

To get a better uruk skin... yes, it's possible, but, you should have Photoshop skills for that of course, here there are some good tutorials by our god himself and, to make it rusty, you might wanna try the scalemail just go down until you see the brown stuff on the mail, and do as it says well, you might find it hard if your not familiar with Photoshop, but heck, good luck anyways

[Nazgûl]

MOHAHA.... If there SOMETHING I am - it is familiar with Photoshop (I've been working as a graphical designer for 10-15 years off and on)

The question was more like: is it possible to do it it that simple
The problem now is more that:
1) I can't seem to find more than one uruk skin? I need them all (fighter, crossbow and pikes). If I find them I will make them look more like this:
Nice dark movie look (link)
2) They DO look MUCH better with only the skins/texture in this file? They look darker and less shiny, but in the game they are brighter and shiny-er? Is it due to some lighting effect maybe? Hm..

[Lauri]

well, EA's very nice, and they made us one Uruk skin of course, they all wore the same armor

[Nazgûl]

They do? Ehm *embarrased* but I thought that the crossbowmen looked a bit different? Hm, better check that again then... *lol*
Practical if I only need to edit one skin though...

[Lauri]

well, EA made an crossbow skin, but they don't use it

[zimoo]

They may have just uvw mapped it slightly differently to give the impression of a different skin.