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[Comrade Kal]

Codecat speaks the truth.

And Hostile -

i'll be buying lots of stocks now! Thanks!


Just as soon as I find some corporations who do not employ anyone or generate a profit.

[Blodo]

Mexico and Poland.

Don't forget Africa and China.

[chemical ali]

Codecat speaks the truth.

And Hostile -

i'll be buying lots of stocks now! Thanks!


Just as soon as I find some corporations who do not employ anyone or generate a profit.

That sort of defys a company, In my own opinion if you got all the scrotes to work by taking away the welfare system so they are forced into work. In the UK for example, there are 5 million 'disabled' people. WTF thats like a good proporation of the population which is utter tosh.

[Comrade Kal]

I know it is. I consider those two practices inethical.

[Calamity_Jones]

Aren't birth rates supposedly dropping? People are supposedly getting less bothered with disrupting their lives by having a child.

What would you rather do? Kill zombies in a shopping mall or continually replace nappies full of shit and wipe up baby vomit?

[Copaman]

You forgot the other options -

- Fight Aliens bent on destroying the human race

- Try to finally master the B, X, R and B, X, L action sets

- Kill undead through various landscapes

- Overthrow a government

- Win a Darwin Award

- Find ways to keep form having a child (Get inventive here...)

- Get a job

- Google the first random word that pops into your head

and finally, last but not least

- STARE AT A COMPUTER SCREEN FOR HOURS TRYING TO READ EVERY FORUM POST IN EXISTANCE ON REVORA

[Cossack]

Aren't birth rates supposedly dropping? People are supposedly getting less bothered with disrupting their lives by having a child.

What would you rather do? Kill zombies in a shopping mall or continually replace nappies full of shit and wipe up baby vomit?

Your right, birth rates are dropping, but not enough to catch up with our raised life expectancy. Like the article says, we only need to have an average of two children per parents and our population will continue to rise dangerously.

[Hostile]

That will actually result in a large population of old people attempted to be supported economically by a much less numerous young working class. Another reason why socialism doesn't work in current conditions.

Captialism urges people from early on to invest in thier own retirement so you are not a personaly/finacancial burden on the next generation by the one thing Einstien quotes as being "man kinds greatest invention."

Compound interest...

Let's say you invested in a child Retirement plan by placing $4000 in an account. IF this child ends up at 64 and retired, they will have 1.2 million dollars from a one time intital $4000 invstment without another penny added.

Of course take into account inflation over his life span and the value is of course alot less. But the end result on the math shows it's important to be smart about where you place you money.

So don't stick it under your mattress or in some stupid savings account unless it's some small amount.

Where do I even begin? Most banks offer some sort of high end banking package if you have so much money in them. First you acquire this money through 401k contributions as a young person.

Than you roll it over into a bank you're happy with, this will qualify you for a high end banking package that gives you a free supermoney market account (fancy saving account) that even at entry level is at least currently 1.75% or 2%. So at least it's at or near the rate of infaltion.

But off course you only keep a small portion there for emergancy sake.

Of course this will fall on deaf ears and the first response is I don't have $4000 dollars. The reason why you don't have $4000 dollars is because your parents didn't know how to prepare for you properly, or prepare thier own lives. So know you have huge college loans and so on. It's generation after generations of people working hard for alittle and owing alot. It's generation after geneteration of uneducated use of current existing funds.

IT only takes one generation of knowing the correct things and implementing them and edcuating your children and leaving them something to change the economics of your own posterity.

[Comrade Kal]

If it was socialism then there wouldn't be money, would there?

[Cossack]

I think you guys are missing the point. Whether a less populated world would be better off under capitalism or socialism, makes no difference (although i would lean towards socialism). It would still be a much better life than in any form of society that exists today.

They say necessity is the mother of invention, which is true....we wouldn't have invented solar cells, nuclear plants, crop rotation, and the combustion engine, without a need for it. That need being the expansion of the human race. But what if we used this surplus we have gained from our mastery of the planet on something other than our expansion? what if we used it on the betterment of our lives? what if we used it on ending world hunger and devoting more time to research?

This is the point im trying to make. Over our thousands of years of existance we have used our expertise to grow our race and conquer the planet entirely (destroying it in the process), but what if we funelled all of that expertise into bettering our lives and our society, rather than just making it bigger and bigger? Life would be so much better, and true "expansion" of our species could begin.

Edited by Cossack, 13 January 2007 - 12:54 AM.

[Ash]

What would you rather do? Kill zombies in a shopping mall or continually replace nappies full of shit and wipe up baby vomit?

Zombies, every time. Pass me the shotgun.


It's prolly just as well the birth rate is dropping.


And Cossack's absolutely right. Reminds me of all these missions to Mars, etc. Why not sort out Earth's problems first, THEN worry about Mars.

[Cossack]

Except when I reffered to not using our skills on the expansion of our race, I meant our expansion on earth. I completely agree with space exploration, and when I said "the true expansion of our race" i was kind of reffering to space travel and advancing in science.

[Hostile]

If it was socialism then there wouldn't be money, would there?

Actually getting to the basic point, even with no money, a small working class cannot support the large non working class elderly segment of the population. The type of government makes no difference.

[Hard_Sander]

And Cossack's absolutely right. Reminds me of all these missions to Mars, etc. Why not sort out Earth's problems first, THEN worry about Mars.

Thanks to space exploration, so many new things were thought of / invented. It costs a lot of money, but we in the long run we get so much in return. But the benefits should should be shared among all nations. I believe space exploration could solve most problems we have here on earth.

Also: our earth is big enough to produce enough food for even more people than there are now. It is just unequily spread. That's the problem. And our ways of gathering aren't very sufisticated. If the western world would help farmers in Africa with equipment and knowledge, there would be no foodshortage.

I think that the fossil supplies here on earth aren't decreasing at such a terrible rate at all. Only the places where we get it, there they are decreasing rapidly. The supplies will be depleted in the Middle East, but countries like the USA still have huge oil fields, mostly untouched. You know how big the ocean is? There this is constantly being created and a lot stored. Over 50 years it will just be harder to obtain it and perhaps we need to search harder to find it, but there will be enough for a long time.

[Blodo]

It's not a question when will it run out, it's more of a question when will the price per barrel start to rise. It doesn't need a fuel shortage for the economy to go kablooey over something as trivial as a news headline exaggerating this thing.

And knowing the intricasies a market crash brings along we will most likely be facing a third world war at that point.