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[Allied General]

Also the whole WW2 not happening is wierd due to the borders of post war and arizona, iowa jima memorials

Just because Hitler was removed from time doesn't mean the Japanese couldn't have attacked Pearl Harbor, silly. They started their expansionist campaign in 1929, around the time when old Adolf would have been coming out of prison to get that nice handshake.

- Soviet barrack's statue "lowers for turtle mode."

Oh, it wasn't just the barracks, apparently most if not all soviet base structures were meant to do this. I've seen concept art of similar for the battle lab.

Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
Definately no attack against America, and expansion in Eurasia would have been limited, China would have probably been "liberated" by Russia

Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
USSR was only allied because on one front it was Germany or all of Europe. If it was only the other, they'd probably have had to stand alone until France and Britain intervened in China and Singapore
Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
with no european threat both would have aided former colonies under threat
Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
Probably even Germany, as they had had pacific colonies, and would want an excuse to raise an army and make friends with fellow europeans again
Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
So if Japan had started WWII, America would have been the last people to join the Pacific war, and wouldn't have until Japan was on the verge of surender anyhow, thus no I Jumbo

Basically lack of history and why USSR hates USA and Korea joining, etc.

Edited by Allied General, 22 January 2007 - 02:01 AM.

[Jeeves]

Снriѕтopнєr/Јєєvєѕ - IZA's gone!!! says:
You could probably edit out every other line

[Rattuskid]

That's a lot of assumptions for a detailed canon concerning a game rife with mind control and giant killer tazers. I mean, do we even have definite start/end dates for Ra1? Things like the hind, FROG program and ICBMs came about only because it was more Krushchev's militaristic style than Stalins... and Ra1 ended with Stalin's death.

So trying to play alternate-history gets severly fudged if you try to take the most accurate route.

[raminator]

afaik i read in the cnc enceclopedia at planetcnc taht germany started ww2 but early surrendered to the allies

[Allied General]

War speeds up technology ... since the massive industrial power of Russia and her allies was left untouched and all the allied countries including german scientists, it isn't too inplausible.

USA being neutral though and allowing soviets to have ICBM silos (well actually could be MRBM) is a bit far fetched but generally its alright.

Also the Nikolai guy with no Ben Franklin hanging around Russia, I wouldn't be suprised if soviets with there almost limitless resources would go into crazy projects (just like nazism and its occult side)

There is of course the paradox of Kane as well ..

Edited by Allied General, 24 January 2007 - 11:28 AM.

[OmegaBolt]

Who cares what the story line is, personally its easier just to let the tiberian universe and red alerts stay apart. Tiberian one is better anyway and doesnt need a tag along like RA2 and YR.

[MCV]

- Could build more than one Cloning Vat (?, some screenshots had 3 but might have been for show)

According to ModEnc, FactoryType= once had CloningInf or something to that extent, which would mean that Cloning Vats would work just like a second set of Barracks, meaning no matter how many you make, only two infantry will ever be built.

The Terrorist could originally disguise and plant C4, making him less of a stereotype and more of a cool unit.

Lets not forget the American Super Paradrop, with GIs, Seals, and Engineers.

Chrono Legionary could originally walk normally.

Aegis Crusier originally had a max of 40 shots, which would reload over time. The BuildLimit=2 make me wonder about this unit's application.

The UTNK, which uses the PrismShot when normal, and at the same time looks like a Rihno. When elite, it uses the 120mmX as primary.

Lasher and Gattling Tank originally used Targeting Lasers.

The Hind was redefined as the Cuban Stealth Chopper, which had twice the carrying cappacity of a Blackhawk.

The NukeSilo originally took everything with it in the grave.

The Ore Purifier originally worked like the Oil Derricks.

The Yuri Power Plant might have been able to gaint two upgrades.

[Rattuskid]

According to ModEnc, FactoryType= once had CloningInf or something to that extent, which would mean that Cloning Vats would work just like a second set of Barracks, meaning no matter how many you make, only two infantry will ever be built.

This may be a misinterpretation of it's function. The way the cloning vats were supposed to work was as an infantry grinder that would grant you the build option of the grinded infantry. Hence if you yuri'd a spy and sent him there, you could build spies to your heart's desire.

Even in RA2 though, multiple infantry exits on different buildings could create clone craziness. There was an old bug with the old hospitals like this.

[MCV]

That might be true, as the mouse.shp contains a "cloning cursor" which would mean that you actually cloned the infantry instead of just getting two.

The Soviets could recieve a paradrop.

The Allied AmpiTrans originally had half the cappacity of the Soviet version. And vehicles were five big, not three.

[Allied General]

- Could build more than one Cloning Vat (?, some screenshots had 3 but might have been for show)

The UTNK, which uses the PrismShot when normal, and at the same time looks like a Rihno. When elite, it uses the 120mmX as primary.

AFAIK that was just a scrapped placeholder unit which wasn't deleted or maybe some lunar unit, its name is just ZZZ Not Used

Amphibious Transports were indeed meant to be different and in default ini, the allied one is messed up due to light armor, no crush ability and a wierd threat level.

The unused cursors suggest individual cursor icons (which can sort of be renabled now thanks to RP)

Edited by Allied General, 22 February 2007 - 11:59 PM.

[Allied General]

Trivial information but worth noting I guess but the allies win RA2 on July 31st 1972

The joys of plastic surgery for Tanya and Einstein

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[Martinoz]

Flak (?) Truck armed with missile

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[OmegaBolt]

Yeh well they did have the Hydrofoil which used missiles and obviously the V3. Plus after RA1 with SAM Sites it would only be logical for the Soviets to have missiles. Allies originally had flak which was more like AA Guns.

[Shine On]

Yeah i think i remember that concept art Mad... But i've not seen it for ages Good find

[Nighthawk]

It looks rather like a Katyusha launcher.

[BobingAbout]

its hard to see from that blury picture. is that from the video in the first loading?
if so, are you sure its not an apoc tank?

[Medusa]

Not everysingle one of these cursors can be enabled, even with RP, but they should be abled to be used for weapons. (Green deploying cursor that has the nuke sign above it. Deploy for desolator?)

Edited by Medusa, 18 March 2007 - 08:00 PM.

[Martinoz]

its hard to see from that blury picture. is that from the video in the first loading?
if so, are you sure its not an apoc tank?

I'm sure that is not an Apocalypse Tank... It's a truck armed with missile - watch it here

[Nighthawk]

At the minute, custom deploy cursors don't work in RP. But if and when they do, there's one for the G.I. too. There's also a cursor for the Spy entering a power plant, though I don't know how that'd be enabled
'CursorToShowWhenSpyGoesIntoPowerPlant=' anyone?

[cdmtx(YR)]

its hard to see from that blury picture. is that from the video in the first loading?
if so, are you sure its not an apoc tank?

No, I remember looking at that it is a truck armed with missiles.