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#1
Posted 01 March 2007 - 09:06 PM
Macromedia Dreamweaver will get you up and running real fast
Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
#2
Posted 01 March 2007 - 09:42 PM
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#4
Posted 02 March 2007 - 12:26 AM
HTML isn't actually hard, and actually learning it is far more useful than creating it as it allows you to extend your ability, fix any bugs, etc.
Also its very difficult to do CSS layouts in generators, so you're stuck with tabular ones, which are bad to begin with (random anti-table link).
If you're going to do something, and you want it done well, you should do it well. If you need help getting started, get in touch.
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#5
Posted 02 March 2007 - 08:36 AM
Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
#6
Posted 02 March 2007 - 09:41 AM
Also I'd recommend Microsoft Frontpage as the biggest garbage generator the earth had ever seen. The amount of clean html that it can foil within like 5 seconds (or an accidental click for that matter) is amazing, and surely deserves some sort of an award.
ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
#7
Posted 02 March 2007 - 09:26 PM
Dreamweaver isn't just an editor (though it does that very well, and like i said, has a good code editor), but also a manager. You can use templates and that stuff, upload directly, and more...It's never good practice to use a WYSIWYG editor to code websites. Unless you want a blog or something, and don't care one bit for web standards or will your page work in all browsers - or just IE.
apparently you have never saved an html file from MS WordAlso I'd recommend Microsoft Frontpage as the biggest garbage generator the earth had ever seen. The amount of clean html that it can foil within like 5 seconds (or an accidental click for that matter) is amazing, and surely deserves some sort of an award.
by the way, I'm not denying that Notepad++ is an essential part of any pc
Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
#8
Posted 03 March 2007 - 06:12 PM
Another awarded Microsoft product.Also I'd recommend Microsoft Frontpage as the biggest garbage generator the earth had ever seen. The amount of clean html that it can foil within like 5 seconds (or an accidental click for that matter) is amazing, and surely deserves some sort of an award.
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"An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field." - Niels Bohr
#9
Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:16 AM
There is no point setting up a site that will crumble in any other browser to the designers, nor one that will decay without the master knowing how to update nor upgrade. And frankly, if someone cannot find a spare weekend to learn (it really isn't that hard, and my offer to help is always there - hit my msn), then I doubt they'd be worthy of running the site/division anyway, and the whole thing becomes entirely trivial.
Feel free to continue the great notepad vs ***** debate btw, just thought I should put this example into better context
Btw, notepad > *****
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#10
Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:42 AM
The last Dreamweaver generated site I edited was a massive mess of godawful HTML that didn't conform to any standards, and used tables for layout and spacer.gif. There were excess tags with no content all over the place, a billion useless font tags, and no use of CSS. I don't know what particular version it was generated with, but I would just about take Word HTML over Dreamweaver.dreamweaver generates clean, standardized html, and if you want you can edit it by hand, in a good editor with code completion, error checking, etc..
You can see the result of my rework here.
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#11
Posted 04 March 2007 - 11:01 AM
let me just assure you that it was a version below MX the Dreamweavers I use don't do thisThe last Dreamweaver generated site I edited was a massive mess of godawful HTML that didn't conform to any standards, and used tables for layout and spacer.gif. There were excess tags with no content all over the place, a billion useless font tags, and no use of CSS. I don't know what particular version it was generated with, but I would just about take Word HTML over Dreamweaver.
Anyway, if you're going to use PHP, then Zend is better. You're not likely to do any complex html then anyway
nice opportunity to advertiseYou can see the result of my rework here.
Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
#12
Posted 04 March 2007 - 05:34 PM
ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
#13
Posted 05 March 2007 - 05:13 PM
In a small note: this is a split from the supreme commander topic, which went far too much offtopic and it's something that interest too much the network to go offtopic like that. I hope everyone understands.
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#14
Posted 05 March 2007 - 09:30 PM
anyway, Dreamweaver does not make your code garbage. but you're right, for coding (e.g. PHP) there are other applications
Einstein: "We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
#15
Posted 05 March 2007 - 10:23 PM
Seems there may be no improving upon Notepad after all
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#16
Posted 05 March 2007 - 10:32 PM
My Political Compass
Sieben Elefanten hatte Herr Dschin
Und da war dann noch der achte.
Sieben waren wild und der achte war zahm
Und der achte war's, der sie bewachte.
#17
Posted 05 March 2007 - 11:00 PM
And no, its not because of wordwrap
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#18
Posted 05 March 2007 - 11:03 PM
My Political Compass
Sieben Elefanten hatte Herr Dschin
Und da war dann noch der achte.
Sieben waren wild und der achte war zahm
Und der achte war's, der sie bewachte.
#19
Posted 06 March 2007 - 12:59 AM
I never EVER use the wysiwyg. It might be useful for a beginner to add something with wysiwyg, than go back and look at the code to see how it functions.
But using wysiwys as THEE way to design a site is foolish. By the time I'm done coding a page, it shows up as gibberish in the visual editor anyway.
Save the environment, use green text
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