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#1 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 10:01 AM

As many of you know, my mod isn't finished yet, there will be a version 1.05, which will of course expand the mod and add a new faction, Corrupted Men.
Now you have the chance to post your ideas about new units, heroes, structures, upgrades and powers for the next version of WotE. Keep in mind that Mordor is in need of new units; when all the Haradrim, Easterlings and Corsairs are moved to Corrupted Men, they lose a large amount of units that need to replaced with new ones. If I will remove Goblins and replace them with Corrupted Men, Mordor will at least get Shelob, Spiderlings and Spider-Riders, but they would still need a lot of new units. So keep posting your ideas, doesn't matter what faction it's about, since all the factions will be expanded.

#2 zimoo

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 10:55 AM

Mordor would need cavalry, what with Haradrim/Mumaks leaving.

I know the Morgul army had a lot of horsemen (Black Numenorians probably), so maybe use that?
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#3 GilGalad

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 09:07 PM

Im new in revoras forum but, i registered only because of your, i is great.
I have some ideas i know you are making a new faction, so i remembered the evil man that governed Dor-Lómin, the place that the house of Hador was living, Brodda of the East, he appears in the Silmarilion in the tale of Túrin, he would be a greate ring-hero or an late game hero.
You can also make GilGalad for the elves, Grishnnakh for Mordor or Isengard, Smaug for Goblins, the 4 hobbits heroes for dwarves, Haleth for the men of the west, Helm Hammer-Hand for Men of the west and Castamir for Angmar, and Feänor or/and Fingon or/and Thingol or/and Fingolfin for the elves.
The only thing that doesn't make much sense in your mod is the mini-hero horde, i think would be better an elite black numenoreans the can change ranged/melee combat and have leadership and the power that the black numenorians have, the one that causes fear.

Gil Galad is the elven that commanded the elven forces in the last alliance battle.
Grishnakh is the orc that tried to eat the legs of Merry and Pippin.
Smaug is the dragon tha habbited Erebor for a long time until he dies by Brand's black arrow.
The 4 hobbits heroes are: Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin.
Haleth is the son of Hamá, he also are one of Theoden royal guards.
Helm Hammer-Hand was the one who built Helms Deep.
Castamir was one of the kings of Umbar.
Feänor, Fingon, Fingolfin and Thingol were the greatest heroes of the first age.


Im your fan and of your mod

Sorry for my bad english, im from Brazil.

Edited by GilGalad, 10 April 2007 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 09 April 2007 - 11:32 PM

Maybe give Mordor Orc Archers from the Black Gate and call them Black Gate Sentry?
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#5 zimoo

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 08:57 AM

Orcs + elite archers = Does not compute.

Feänor, Fingon, Fingolfin and Thingol were the greatest heroes of the first age.


Yeah sure :rolleyes: . Feanor died as soon as the first age began and Thingol was just a selfish nub. Beren, Turin and Earendil were the true heroes, along with Fingolfin and his sons.

Plus, they don't fit in this mod at all. Brodda does, as men have a habit of naming themselves after ancestors. But elves have unique names.
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Posted 10 April 2007 - 11:48 AM

One of the Easterling heroes of Evil Men is called Ulwarth. He appeared in the Silmarillion. As I don't have any other Easterling heroes (except Khamul), I think I won't use Brodda's name in my mod (Gurthur the Balrog is the Ring Hero of Evil Men by the way). And the Goblins will be replaced with Evil Men if you didn't know that :rolleyes:

But in fact I'm planning to add Black Gate Archers as the new elite archers of Mordor (because Haradrim are removed). I will also add Grishnakh to Isengard as the leader of the Orcs of Lugburz.

The Elves already have too many heroes, so I think I'm not going to add any First Age Elves to the mod.

BTW, it's great to hear that people like by mod and wish to share their ideas :p

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 11:59 AM

The 4 hobbits heroes are: Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin and Bilbo.

aha, so that's the 4 hobbits.... :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:02 PM

Orcs + elite archers = Does not compute.


Each side should have strengths and weaknesses. If you want Mordor to have an extra ranged unit I'd suggest giving them skirmishers or something (in the style of the BFME1 Haradrim). But Mordor elite archers makes absolutely no sense.

Or allow the fellbeast-Nazgul to fire off arrows :rolleyes:
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#9 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:44 PM

But since Mordor doesn't have any Evil Men, they have to have some sort of elite Orcs to replace the Corsairs, Easterlings and Haradrim. If you have any ideas about that, share them :rolleyes: Anyway, Mordor will get the Goblin Spider Riders who can shoot fire arrows.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:47 PM

*ducks for the chair zimoo throws at Ithron for that last sentence....*

anyways, zimoo said something :rolleyes: skirmishers....

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#11 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:50 PM

Yeah I now many people hate the Spider Riders (I hate them too :rolleyes:) But I didn't want to throw away the Goblin stuff EA made, and by adding the spider riders I could give Mordor a new cavalry unit.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 05:01 PM

Give them nazgul-archers :rolleyes:
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#13 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 05:58 PM

Give them nazgul-archers :rolleyes:

Can't do that, all the 9 Nazgul are already being used (Witch-king and Morgomir as Mordor heroes, Khamul as an Evil Men hero, the rest are called Black Riders and they are the Mordor hero horde). Really unique idea BTW :p

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 07:46 PM

Feanor died as soon as the first age began and Thingol was just a selfish nub. Beren, Turin and Earendil were the true heroes, along with Fingolfin and his sons.

Plus, they don't fit in this mod at all. Brodda does, as men have a habit of naming themselves after ancestors. But elves have unique names.

Sorry you are right, i have made only a confusion of names.

The elite archers could be Morgul Archers, in the movie they killed all faramirs cavalry in his desperate try to retrieve Osgiliath back to Gondor.

Edited by GilGalad, 10 April 2007 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:01 PM

I think I'll stick with the Black Gate Arches idea, because Mordor will have several other Morgul units such as Spearmen of Morgul Vale and Morgul Warg Riders.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:17 PM

With orc archers...it's not how skilled they are, but how many they are.

Gondor Captain: The orcs are so many that their arrows darken the sun.
Faramir: Then we will fight in the shade.

*Seconds later Faramir and all the cavalry fall to the orc archers*
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#17 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:24 PM

What about Black Uruks who can toggle between bow and sword?

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:42 PM

Sounds better, but I still don't like the idea of them being 'elite'. IMO, elite archers for Mordor should only be slightly more skilled than basic archers for good factions.
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#19 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 12:44 PM

Sounds reasonable :grin:

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 01:48 PM

I agree with zimoo that orcs=elite archers doe's not compute.

I agree with zimoo that orcs=elite archers doe's not compute.
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