Jump to content


Photo

Ask the Modder!


  • Please log in to reply
93 replies to this topic

#21 Lauri

Lauri

    Let us remember foREVer

  • Hosted
  • 10,419 posts
  • Location:Norway
  • Projects:'The 4th Age' and 'Shadow and Flame'
  •  The very worst T3A Team Chamber Member

Posted 05 July 2007 - 10:30 PM

no, I acctually meant the way they are now :rolleyes: :thumbsupsmiley: He asked if the archers were in the mod, not if it were a unit of it's own :rolleyes:

Shadow and Flame BETA 0.6 RELEASED - Link


#22 Harad King

Harad King
  • Project Team
  • 220 posts
  • Location:Mexico

Posted 14 July 2007 - 05:51 PM

Is Shagrat an orc or a black uruk? ;)

Kings of the west mod ROCKS!!!! :p

Edited by harad king, 14 July 2007 - 05:57 PM.

Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

#23 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 14 July 2007 - 06:25 PM

Shagrat is an orc. Gorbag is a black uruk.

-Gto

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#24 IthronAiwendil

IthronAiwendil

    Retired modder

  • Hosted
  • 1,452 posts
  • Location:Finland
  • Projects:None
  •  Coder, skinner, modeler, art guy

Posted 16 July 2007 - 07:08 AM

I thought it was vice-versa :p

#25 Uruk King

Uruk King

    Lore-abiding citizen

  • Project Team
  • 1,673 posts
  • Location:Leamington, UK

Posted 16 July 2007 - 03:18 PM

Technically in the books they were bot Black Uruks.

@ Gto, if you remember in the books, Gorbag was pwned by Shagrat, but in the movies it made sense because Gorbag was a common orc unlike Shagrat. Now thats a bit wierd, a black uruk being killed by a lone orc.............
I will remember Rhovanion Alliance, RIP .

Posted Image

#26 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 16 July 2007 - 07:03 PM

No, in the books it never says what shagrat is.

Seeing as how I knew this would come up again I kept a copy of my reasoning behind making shagrat an orc and gorbag the uruk:

on page 721 of TTT "The Choices of Master Samwise" Gorbag says the following to Shagrat:


QUOTE
Always the poor Uruks to put slips right...


This means that atleast one of them is an uruk and the way it is said suggests that gorbag is an uruk since that saying implies that the speaker is part of the group mentioned. It doesn't say whether shagrat is an uruk or not, and the rest of the chapter uses Orcs and Uruks interchangably when talking about the two groups (shagrat's tower people and gorbag's uruks from morgul).

Interestingly if you watch the scene in the movie (which I am doing as I write this ), shagrat's book lines are almost all said by the orc... The part about everything going to the great eye was Shagrat in the book... the orc coming back to frodo after the fight was shagrat in the book (and the orc in the movie)... the movie orc is more familiar with Shelob and explains to the uruk what she does, suggesting that the orc lives in the tower and deals with shelob more often (shagrat)... the orc is also the one who orders his troops "Get him [frodo] to the tower!" a command that the commander of the tower (shagrat) would say. There are only two problem with PJ's film: it's the uruk who says "I don't take orders from stickin morgul rats" and the uruk who runs away with Frodo's mithril shirt to Barad-dur (possible reason is that sam kills the other orc in the tower so PJ had to use the uruk in this role). They NEVER actually say their names in the movie...


So, what I decided was that because PJ showed us two orcs, one an uruk and one an orc, was that shagrat should be the orc and gorbag must be the uruk.

I could be wrong, but this is the view I've taken as it makes the most sense to me. And my ideas + my mod = shagrat an orc.

If someone else has a different view on it and can back it up I might change it.


Also, keep in mind that I have to make one an orc and the other an uruk since that's what the movie did and that's what people expect to see...

-Gto

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#27 Harad King

Harad King
  • Project Team
  • 220 posts
  • Location:Mexico

Posted 17 July 2007 - 02:10 AM

Gorbag was a vicious Uruk, but in the Jackson films he appears as a common Orc. He is the captain of an Orc troop of Minas Morgul. He served the Nazgûl who dwelled in the Dead City but he found them disturbing so he moved to Cirith Ungol with Shagrat I found this Info at wikipidia and I think shagrat was an orc but in the movies he appears as a black uruk and is Haldir going o have a timer in the mod and are team colors going to be remove sorry If I asked this question before I don't remember if I asked before

Edited by harad king, 17 July 2007 - 02:30 AM.

Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

#28 Lauri

Lauri

    Let us remember foREVer

  • Hosted
  • 10,419 posts
  • Location:Norway
  • Projects:'The 4th Age' and 'Shadow and Flame'
  •  The very worst T3A Team Chamber Member

Posted 17 July 2007 - 11:22 AM

Well, remember 1 thing.... We never heard them say who's who... Nobody calls Shargrat for Shargrat, or Gorbag for Gorbag... I think that PJ thought about this too, cause he wasn't sure who's who :p

Shadow and Flame BETA 0.6 RELEASED - Link


#29 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 17 July 2007 - 09:36 PM

and is Haldir going o have a timer in the mod and are team colors going to be remove sorry


I can't say for sure about Haldir because this may be changed for balance reasons, but my goal is to have him, Imrahil, and any other summoned heroes be just like normal once summoned. None of them would have timers. (I guess there is also the issue of summoning him more then once... but it should be possible to get around this.)

Team color's will probably not be removed as I rather like being able to see which units are on which teams. However I will certainly include new lotr colors so that you aren't using silly neon greens and such.

-Gto

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#30 witchking

witchking

    The Witch-King of Angmar, the leader of the Nazgûl (Ringwraiths)

  • Members
  • 244 posts
  • Location:Usa
  • Projects:how am i supposed to know? im only a beginner
  •  don't count me out of modding ever. i may be new and yes sometime i may be annoying but if you think i cannot mod then... then you'r dead wrong!

Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:21 PM

awwww man you guys already used up the first 5 qustions i had a mod related qustion because im haveing trobble makeing my mod i need to know how to change a certen thing oh well

#31 adummy

adummy

    Keep it Clean!

  • Project Team
  • 1,760 posts
  • Location:Arizona, USA

Posted 20 July 2007 - 07:11 PM

this is questions about the mod, now how to mod.
Posted Image

#32 Guest_RolandofGilead_*

Guest_RolandofGilead_*
  • Guests

Posted 28 July 2007 - 05:12 PM

Could you (or someone) add a blademaster type of attack to Sam where he uses his sword and his frying pan at the same time (like he does in Moria in the movie), and could you make it so that Merry and Pippin could ride on Treebeard and throw rocks from his shoulders? Also, could you create Beorn with his shapeshifting power?

#33 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 29 July 2007 - 12:46 AM

While I will be adding something new to sam it probably won't be the frying pan attack. However I believe that Celeglin managed to make it work in his Elven Alliance mod... you might want to check it out :lol:

Beorn and the hobbits riding treebeard are definately out. Beorn would be hard to do as would the hobbits riding anything other then a horse (which only merry will be able to do). Though I think that the Rhovanion Alliance mod is adding Beorn and possibly the hobbits riding, again I'm not sure but you might want to check it out as well.

-Gto

Edited by GothmogtheOrc, 29 July 2007 - 12:47 AM.

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#34 Mathijs

Mathijs

    Post-modern Shaman

  • Network Leaders
  • 13,711 posts
  • Projects:Age of the Ring
  • Division:Revora
  • Job:Leader

Posted 29 July 2007 - 02:54 PM

Rhovanion Alliance is adding Grimbeorn, son of Beorn. :lol:

No fuel left for the pilgrims


#35 Guest_cudaken_*

Guest_cudaken_*
  • Guests

Posted 03 August 2007 - 07:32 PM

Time for something fun :cool:

I'll answer the first five questions... anything mod related you ask I'll answer :)

One thing though, they must be specific questions (ie you can't ask what all the heroes powers are) and you can't ask what the holy grail is... though if you happen to ask a question that relates to it I'll answer it :crazed:

So ask away!

-GothmogtheOrc


if you play as gondor, when you build gandalf game crashes and gives a shadowfax error? whats wrong?

#36 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 04 August 2007 - 10:33 PM

What? What mod are you refering to?

-Gto

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#37 Guest_Guest_*

Guest_Guest_*
  • Guests

Posted 07 October 2007 - 07:15 PM

Is his mod dead?

#38 GothmogtheOrc

GothmogtheOrc

    Ruler of the Morgul Vale

  • Hosted
  • 2,263 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Projects:Kings of the West Mod
  •  T3A Chamber Member - Retired

Posted 07 October 2007 - 10:28 PM

Nope, It's still alive and going :) I just was busy the past 2.5 months and hadn't been able to work on it. But that is no longer the case and I have been able to get some stuff done the past week or so.

At the moment I am keeping the progress behind the scenes but within a week or so I'll post something in the weekly mod update thread and in my forums :D

-GothmogtheOrc

Nine%20rings.jpg
Click on my Sig to go to my BFME Modding site where you can download my mods.
KotW%20Morgul%20In-game.jpg
Kings of the West Mod Leader
*Retired. PM me if you need to get a hold of me as I'll get an email notification and should reply within a day or so*


#39 Uruk King

Uruk King

    Lore-abiding citizen

  • Project Team
  • 1,673 posts
  • Location:Leamington, UK

Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:29 AM

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much of the mod is completed? :thumbsupsmiley:
I will remember Rhovanion Alliance, RIP .

Posted Image

#40 Beleg

Beleg

    "Conform or be Cast Out"

  • Project Team
  • 564 posts
  • Location:Florida, U.S.A.
  • Projects: Coding for KoTW, Expansions
  •  c0d3r

Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:55 PM

7/8 :thumbsupsmiley:

Edited by Beleg, 16 January 2008 - 12:57 PM.

92% of teens have moved onto rap. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your signature
Posted Image
"Tell a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry"
>>Political Compass<<




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users