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#1 yOmAmA

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 09:35 PM

Would anyone be interested in starting a mod with me??
I can do rules.ini editing, making maps, and soem other things.
Mostly i really only need help on is single player, art.ini(can do some), and shp's things like that.
And if the mod ends up being good we may need website.

working on one right now......
new countries []
Some new units [x]
over 50 new units []
over 100 new units []
100+ units []

My idea of a mod is something fun but not too easy but not to hard(
easy mode being piece of cake,
medium being a challenge, and
brutal being just plain brutal!
things like that)

#2 narboza22

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:10 PM

This would be for CnC ZH? If you know XML, or are willing to learn, we could use you on the Tactical Warfare team, which will eventually be moving to CnC3. Right now I've only got 2 1/2 team members including my self. Used to have more, but then college started, one joined the Air Force, and some of the others had RL problems. Anyway, my MSN is p_o_d_2_2@hotmail.com if you interested.

This would be for CnC ZH? If you know XML, or are willing to learn, we could use you on the Tactical Warfare team, which will eventually be moving to CnC3. Right now I've only got 2 1/2 team members including my self. Used to have more, but then college started, one joined the Air Force, and some of the others had RL problems. Anyway, my MSN is p_o_d_2_2@hotmail.com if you interested.
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#3 yOmAmA

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Posted 29 March 2007 - 11:13 PM

This would be for CnC ZH? If you know XML, or are willing to learn, we could use you on the Tactical Warfare team, which will eventually be moving to CnC3. Right now I've only got 2 1/2 team members including my self. Used to have more, but then college started, one joined the Air Force, and some of the others had RL problems. Anyway, my MSN is p_o_d_2_2@hotmail.com if you interested.

This would be for CnC ZH? If you know XML, or are willing to learn, we could use you on the Tactical Warfare team, which will eventually be moving to CnC3. Right now I've only got 2 1/2 team members including my self. Used to have more, but then college started, one joined the Air Force, and some of the others had RL problems. Anyway, my MSN is p_o_d_2_2@hotmail.com if you interested.



OMG stupid me! lol i forgot to tell which game lol.....well i'll do a mod for any game but i mainly know ra2 and yr...i hate ts, and only got generals :p.........i know xml though (my birthday in week or 2 i'm going to ask for cnc generals ZH lol sorry.

#4 Calamity_Jones

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 12:08 AM

You have no idea do you? :p

You cannot simply make a post and expect people to leap with glee at the thought of helping you. If you're going to start a mod, you need a clearly defined purpose, you need to be able to produce work yourself, and produce examples of what you are capable of. You need to have a well set plan, a detailed description of what you intend to create.

You cannot produce work from thin air, what units will you make?, what will they look like? what will they do?

Do you have even the most remote idea of how much work is involved in placing a single new asset ingame?

Model
Unwrap
Skin
Animation
Export
Art
Code Unit
Code Buttons
Code Weapons
Code FX
Test
Fix the mountain of problems you have discovered
Balance

50 new units will take you years. No fucking joke.

Making a mod is something that you must be committed to and you must spend a long time working on it. Go and make a plan. A good plan, then go learn to do everything that is in that list, because as a team leader you need to be able to pull the team together, help people and inspect and (if necessary) improve the work of team members.

And you ain't gonna get anybody working with you until you can produce something that will get peoples interest, modding is a massive investment in time and people don't want to waste their time.

I was naïve at first, just like you, but I've learn the err of my ways from 3 years of experience. Don't get too involved in an idea right away or you'll end up disappointed, go join another mod team and learn in the process of making. You'll get a feel for being in a team and get used to how these things work, take up Narboza's offer!

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#5 yOmAmA

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 12:25 AM

You have no idea do you? :p

You cannot simply make a post and expect people to leap with glee at the thought of helping you. If you're going to start a mod, you need a clearly defined purpose, you need to be able to produce work yourself, and produce examples of what you are capable of. You need to have a well set plan, a detailed description of what you intend to create.

You cannot produce work from thin air, what units will you make?, what will they look like? what will they do?

Do you have even the most remote idea of how much work is involved in placing a single new asset ingame?

Model
Unwrap
Skin
Animation
Export
Art
Code Unit
Code Buttons
Code Weapons
Code FX
Test
Fix the mountain of problems you have discovered
Balance

50 new units will take you years. No fucking joke.

Making a mod is something that you must be committed to and you must spend a long time working on it. Go and make a plan. A good plan, then go learn to do everything that is in that list, because as a team leader you need to be able to pull the team together, help people and inspect and (if necessary) improve the work of team members.

And you ain't gonna get anybody working with you until you can produce something that will get peoples interest, modding is a massive investment in time and people don't want to waste their time.

I was naïve at first, just like you, but I've learn the err of my ways from 3 years of experience. Don't get too involved in an idea right away or you'll end up disappointed, go join another mod team and learn in the process of making. You'll get a feel for being in a team and get used to how these things work, take up Narboza's offer!

First off I plan on going over all that once i get a staff and second i didn't expect it to be a super massive mod that everyone loves. I was ganna have it just for FUN! you know the reason why just about everyone plays videogames. and 50 units wouldn't take years i didn't say they had to be completely new or had to be completely in depth. Gees sick of peole always citisizing everyone....if your interested post if your not SHUT UP!

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 04:18 AM

Uh, he speaks good truth, and you probably won't get much help if you flame anyone who tries to.
You need to consider a few points if you're going to get anywhere with modding;
1. Whats the mod? Plan what your mods about. If its just a random assortment of new units, serving minimal or already filled roles, gameplay probably won't be all that great.
2. What does it need? Plan what your mod's going to need, and how you can get it. If you're adding 50 units, you either need to find a lot of existing public assets you can use, or learn how to make them.
3. What can you do? Figure out what you can do without help. If you can show people a good and interesting job, they'll want to help. If you sit back and expect everything to be done for you, you'll have much more trouble recruiting.
If you can't plan out what you're doing, you won't get that far, and if you can't accept help when you need it, you won't get far enough to fail from inept planning, and if you can't find the time or effort to plan, let alone all the work involved in physically compiling the mod, then moddings probably just not for you.
Also, moved to a more appropriate place. :sad2:

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#7 Mongoose

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:42 AM

May i ask how old you are, that also would help in getting a staff. Nobdy will join you if your 14 or so
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:52 AM

Mental age > physical age.

This topic may provide some nice information.

yOmAmA, what do you want your mod to be about?

#9 Calamity_Jones

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 11:05 AM

First off I plan on going over all that once i get a staff and second i didn't expect it to be a super massive mod that everyone loves. I was ganna have it just for FUN! you know the reason why just about everyone plays videogames. and 50 units wouldn't take years i didn't say they had to be completely new or had to be completely in depth. Gees sick of peole always citisizing everyone....if your interested post if your not SHUT UP!


Modding contains lots of work that is not fun, it can be very tedious and frustrating at times, and that's when you need to have the motivation to keep going. I'm trying to help, and like Jeeves said, don't piss on people who are trying to help or you'll get nowhere :sad2:

You also need to know how to take criticism if you're gonna make a mod. People will lash out, people will go berserk when you decide to change the game you're modding because you discover that EAW is in fact shit and you can't make Leman Russes as cool as you can in cnc3... um... well, that happened to us :D

I'll say it again, go work on another mod team before you try to make a mod yourself.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 12:54 PM

I was a moment faster than Jeeves so I moved the topic and not he :p.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 04:49 PM

For a guy that can't take critisism, has a name called yomama, has his first post as an agressor with a :p emoticon in and no direct plan, I'd say the chances of me actually working with you is pretty much non existent.
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#12 yOmAmA

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:33 PM

OMG!!
1.I am 14!
2. What kinda work isn't fun on modding besides shp's vxls and hva's?
3.SHUT UP I know you guys speak the truth i know you all know what your talking about(you just don't know what i'm talking about)
and the planning i said i was go over it with "staff"(people who just wanna mod you know for FUN.)
4. i've found someone.
5.and elerium shut up thats like spaming it's annoying and i can take critisism i just don't care for STUPID critisism.(and yea i know i spell critisism wrong).
6. It's been a day and i've anded atleast 10 units and like 4 i'm working the kinks out of.
7.Get my point now?!?!
8.Quote::::Calamity_Jones:::::50 new units will take you years. No fucking joke.::::::NO IT DOESN'T!!!!

#13 Jeeves

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 06:23 AM

OMG!!
1. You must be very proud
2. Think he's refeering to planning, which I actually love. If not, debuging :mellow:
3. Again, easier to recruit if you have something to show, even if its just a snippet of story. Also, everyone mods for fun. You don't waste your days infront of a computer checking over pages of code to find a typo if you don't love doing it ;)
4. You must be very proud.
5. Technically its known as "feedback," its what makes newbs into modders, and makes n00bs grumpy.
6. Good progress, don't forget to backup and test each bit individually as well as in combo. I never do, so when I'm pratting about and get an IE its that much harder to track down ;)
7. If I say yes, will you stop mindlessly abusing the few people to have the patience to try and help?
8. The BBCode for quotes is [Quote=person], and Calamity's a Generals modder. To put 50 new units in Generals would take years :xcahik_:

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#14 Elerium

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 11:59 AM

In case you haven't noticed 'yomama', most of us are in the age range of 16+

Edited by Elerium, 31 March 2007 - 12:00 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 12:41 PM

Guys, if he wants to do it his way, let him.
If he get's it to work that way, fine. If not, you have warned him.

End of story.

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#16 yOmAmA

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 03:34 PM

Guys, if he wants to do it his way, let him.
If he get's it to work that way, fine. If not, you have warned him.

End of story.

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1.Finally someone who understands why don't you guys be more like him!?!?
2.i'm coming with screenshots soon(as soon as i figure out how)
3. i've got like 30 new units and it's just me i did it in 2 days (i think some might be in other mods but eh who cares my mods got those units +)

4.And who cares about age i mean it's what you can do, plus i'm sure all of you were like me once because i'm learning so jeeees.


And not to mention that me and narboza22 will be starting a mod as soon as i get cnc3.
So for those who think age matters IT DOESN"T!!!

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:19 PM

3. i've got like 30 new units and it's just me i did it in 2 days (i think some might be in other mods but eh who cares my mods got those units +)


I hope you didn't just take them straight out of other mods without permission, that's something that's very much not tolerated by the vast majority of the modding community.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 05:06 PM

Wow, what a great way to crash, burn and get yourself blacklisted.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 05:12 PM

Guys, if he wants to do it his way, let him.
If he get's it to work that way, fine. If not, you have warned him.

End of story.

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1.Finally someone who understands why don't you guys be more like him!?!?

Because that would make the world a very dull place.

It would be nice if you too could cease this discussion.
This sort of remarks end up getting responses in line with those already posted.

If you want to post the progress of your mod, go ahead, but if this goes on, I will have to close this topic.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 05:21 PM

Yeah, if you didn't know yOmAmA, that is a small thing which I like to call 'modding plagiarism'. Do you know what plagiarism is? Well, if you steal someone's intellectual property without permission, then you can get sued (in the real world), or blacklisted (in this little world). If you didn't know that, then you should be learning about it in about... Two weeks, if you're American. As I figure you just turned 14, and felt like you could use your newfound age to get some respect, you're probably in eighth grade, and know very little about the real world besides what you learn on TV shows or see on the internet (probably started looking at pr0n, as well). As Elerium said, if you took those assets without permission, you're blacklisted, which is, in modding terms, 'screwed'. Not being negative here, I just read your mind, because I'm psyclick, and I can do that over teh internets! :p [/immaturity]

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