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[watsupcuz]

I made this topic to hopefully have some cool animations that EA made but didnt use to be put back into this game, and there is no mod better to put the animations in than SEE. I hopefully will be able to update this lots but you never know.

The first is the mountain giant crouching, i bit strage but makes them seem a bit more realistic.
 MountainCrouch.wmv   2.71MB   334 downloads

Also Nazgul i was wondering if u could increase the amount of Mega Bytes i can post becasue at the moment thats all i can post.

Edited by Nazgûl, 10 April 2007 - 02:27 AM.

[cahik_]

there are many unused anims around very bad that noone can import those anims propertly to max/gmax. it would allow us to bring so many new things to the game.

[watsupcuz]

Another thing i would like to mention is that if anyone has seen an animation like i the collectors edition that wasnt included in the game please tell me because it is long work looking through random units animations.

Oh Before u ask, no i havent seen the Legolas kills mumakil animation. which is strange because i have found most the others that were in the video. I do know i bit about the power such as the name and picture of it and that is it.

In other news something that i think will be very important, in what thought was to be impossible because of it needed animations and the SEE team didnt have an animator, during my time looking through the animations i have found 4 differnt animations of the rohirrim archers running and shooting at the same time!! So with any luck these animations will be able to be used. Since i dont no what coding to use i guess i will have to wait for Nazgul to try them, Just ask nazgul and i will give u the names of the animations.

EDIT: ok just had a look at the rohirrim archer horde and it already has the codes for it moving, so... it just a matter of figuring out how to get it to fire while attacking.

Edited by watsupcuz, 09 April 2007 - 10:22 AM.

[Mordor Slayer]

That's great! Thanks for your help!

[Nazgûl]

YEAH, coool, we want that idle anim for the giants in game... The only questin is how, lol. I'll sweep through the ini looking for uncommented things. How did you make the scenario for the video? Is that worldbuilder or is it in game?

And PLEASE do tell Whatsup if you guys find any more anims that we could display here. That would make this a great gallery for discussions and possibilities of adding stuff

there are many unused anims around very bad that noone can import those anims propertly to max/gmax. it would allow us to bring so many new things to the game.

Why can't they be imported? And speaking of Cahik... who would I have to kill to get you on the SEE Team? From what I gather you're the best animator on this forum?

The Lego slayer thing is probably not there cause it's done like a movie and not like an anim. But I think they PLANNED it though, since the art for Lego has the Mumak picture as a button... :/ Maybe someone like Cahik could kame a simpler but still somewhat cool anim for Lego based on that?

The Rohirrim shooting while moving is also REALLY wanted, but people say that the problem is to lock their torsos from spinning 360 degrees... I don't know myself since I'm indeed no animator... I don't even have such programs. I know coding and skinning... that's it :( But I'll sweep the Rohirrim codes as well for uncommented things...

Good work on the video Whatsup... keep them coming (I don't know how you can post bigger files? Maybe if I promote you to team status?)

Edited by Nazgûl, 09 April 2007 - 02:48 PM.

[m@tt]

You would have to kill Dain, Nertea, Celeglin, me, Ched and the various other RA staffers. He's ours!

whatever, it's his choice really

Edited by mh_gollum, 09 April 2007 - 03:05 PM.

[Dain Ironfoot]

Those Rohirrim animations were found and drooled over by modders since the game was released. But we never made anything of 'em, noones worked out how. Judging by the code, original plan was to play these anims as turret rotation. Doesn't work as far as we can tell.

[Mordor Slayer]

Those Rohirrim animations were found and drooled over by modders since the game was released. But we never made anything of 'em, noones worked out how. Judging by the code, original plan was to play these anims as turret rotation. Doesn't work as far as we can tell.

Dain of RA on our forums! I'm honoured .

[Nazgûl]

I concur!
And that's pretty much what I figured too from reading about it before... It seems to hard coded :/

You would have to kill Dain, Nertea, Celeglin, me, Ched and the various other RA staffers. He's ours!

whatever, it's his choice really

Well I wouldn't wanna do that, so I can only hope he gets boored when RA in finished and released in the future... and might wanna get back to modding by helping us out too

[watsupcuz]

Well to to get idle animations ingame is easy just find the rest of the idle animations heres the code of the origanal code of the idle animations of the mountain giant.

IdleAnimationState
			StateName = Idle
			AllowRepeatInRandomPick = Yes
			Flags = RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE		

			Animation = stand
				AnimationName		= WUMntGnt_SKL.WUMntGnt_IDLB
				AnimationMode		= ONCE
				AnimationPriority	= 60
			End
			Animation = tugarmour
				AnimationName		= WUMntGnt_SKL.WUMntGnt_IDLD
				AnimationMode		= ONCE
				AnimationPriority	= 10
			End
			Animation = scratchbutt
				AnimationName		= WUMntGnt_SKL.WUMntGnt_IDLC
				AnimationMode		= ONCE
				AnimationPriority	= 5
			End
			Animation = bugstep
				AnimationName		= WUMntGnt_SKL.WUMntGnt_IDLE
				AnimationMode		= ONCE
				AnimationPriority	= 5
			End

Now to get a new animation in you just have to know what the animation names are, for the crouching mountain giant The name is WUMntGnt_IDLF. As u can see there is a trend with them as the rest of the idle animations are IDLA, IDLB,IDlC etc. IDL standing for idle obviously and the A,B,C just the animations of them. so to get the animation in just cooy the code of The IDLE idle animation and change the name of the animation toWUMntGnt_IDLF, so basically just change the E to and F.

You can change the animation Priority higher if u like, i take it you would know what it would do if u changed it higher.

so basically if u want to add this ingame( o yea by the way that was in game the video) just add this code in the mountain giant animations for idle

Animation = bugstep
				AnimationName		= WUMntGnt_SKL.WUMntGnt_IDLF
				AnimationMode		= ONCE
				AnimationPriority	= 10
			End

[watsupcuz]

OK new animation for the mountain giant, decided id post here considering there is no room left in top post

OK it is some sort of rampage thing htat the troll has when it is dying, i tell ya what i wouldnt want to get in the way of that.

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[Nazgûl]

SERIOUSLY COOL!!!
And I love that you seem to be working through one unit at a time... I mean instead of randomly, this will be more organized! I think I could connect a weapon to that animation, and yes that would defenitely be a rampage weapon of major sort! The trick would be to make him use that just before he dies... But we wants it, somehow!

And heres the first one you found - Now in SEE! Good job Whatsup! I know it kinda looks like he's taking a crap, but what the hell... You gotta rest your legs every one in a while when you're carrying all that body weight, right? hehe

Edited by Nazgûl, 10 April 2007 - 02:25 AM.

[watsupcuz]

LOL^^

I was going to say that about him taking a crap but i sort of didnt want to bring attention to it, but hey seeing it said made me laugh. I dont know how to set it to him before he dies, i even looked at the troll animations but it didnt seem to make any sence for it to work at the moment it hits that health.

[Sûlherokhh]

...
I think I could connect a weapon to that animation, and yes that would defenitely be a rampage weapon of major sort! The trick would be to make him use that just before he dies... But we wants it, somehow!
...

Instead of the 'Body = ActiveBody' we need the giant to have something like the troll has (with other values):

Body = DelayedDeathBody ModuleTag_02
		MaxHealth				= M_CAVE_TROLL_HEALTH;BALANCE CaveTroll Health
		MaxHealthDamaged		= 250
		MaxHealthReallyDamaged	= 100
	;;RecoveryTime			= 5000
		DoHealthCheck			= No		;// Don't want to get the delayed death behaviour when we die normally.
		DelayedDeathTime		= 5000
		CanRespawn				= No		;// Unit can't get revived.
	End

I remember in BfME1 someone gave it to Boromir as the ability 'Last Stand'.

[zimoo]

AnimationState = WEAPONSET_RAMPAGE
			Animation = GetMad
				AnimationName = MUMntTroll_SKL.MUMntTroll_RPGC
				AnimationMode = LOOP
			End
		End

WeaponSet
		Conditions		  = RAMPAGE
		Weapon			  = PRIMARY	MordorCaveTrollRampage
	End

	WeaponSet
		Conditions		  = RAMPAGE PASSENGER_TYPE_ONE
		Weapon			  = PRIMARY	MordorCaveTrollTreeRampage
	End

In mountaintroll.ini, as well as the bit Sul posted.

<EventList Name="TrollFunctions" Inherit="BaseScriptFunctions">
		<EventHandler EventName="ReallyDamaged"	ScriptFunctionName="GoIntoRampage" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
		<EventHandler EventName="OnCreated" ScriptFunctionName="OnTrollCreated" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
		<EventHandler EventName="OnGenericEvent" ScriptFunctionName="OnTrollGenericEvent" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
		<EventHandler EventName="BeTerrified" ScriptFunctionName="BecomeTerrified" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
	</EventList>

In scriptevents.xml, notice the first EventHandler line.

function GoIntoRampage(self)
	ObjectEnterRampageState(self)
		
	--Broadcast fear to surrounding unit(if we actually rampaged)
	if ObjectTestModelCondition(self, "WEAPONSET_RAMPAGE") then
		ObjectBroadcastEventToUnits(self, "BeAfraidOfRampage", 250)
	end
end

Scripts.lua, telling troll to go into the WEAPONSET_RAMPAGE condition state which is linked to the weapon.

[watsupcuz]

Here a quick video about 11 seconds of 4 differetn mountain giant animations that could be used, the first looks like it picking up a tree or something, the second of it picking up a person and chucking them, the 3rd of it running at full speed, and the 4th of another death animation of it falling forward. ( this was done in W3D viewer)

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[Sûlherokhh]

@zimoo: Thanks. I wanted to go to through the rest of the inis later. Now you've done the works.

@watsupcuz: Great stuff! I am really getting bored by the giant always falling backward! ;-)

[Nazgûl]

Yes, thank YOU Zimoo... I wish you were on the team as well...

And big thanks to Whatsup too, for all his animation research. I think Im gonna promote you to team status soon, if you'd like?

I love them all, the more animations the better - it's only a question of what's doable and what's not. That falling forward is already in the ini, but commented out with something about it missing something to complete it... :/

[watsupcuz]

Well ihave tried the falling forward one in my game, it does fall forward but doesnt knock men over. i think that would be in weopen.ini but not sure.

[Nazgûl]

Yeah, it says...

// DIEB falls forward and cannot be used until there is an equivalent RDIEB so that the DeathWeapon can match properly

I'll look into it