First point to pull apart another retarded argument:
under laissez faire capitalism we have the longest sustained economic development.
So first your supporting an anarchist form of capitalism on its highest level
With anarchy the end result is biker gangs roaming the country looking for food and women to rape, its a sad by realistic vision just like in Mad Max
You make up some dream world full of monkeys on motorbikes living whilst complaining about anarchy.
ROFL laisser-faire was an anarchist form of capitalism you retard. Jesus christ, what an argument ali. I destroyed it with 2 lines.
So much for marxist propaganda. I don't even believe in marx. If marx's theory comes truth then so be it, if it doesn't then it doesn't. Marx is just another ideology. Just like capitalism. None of it works because you cannot define mankind's living under a few set of rules. Every community, every region wants/should have different laws and different beliefs due to there own political and economic gains/beliefs. Ever region has different circumstances, you cannot define every induvidual under a centralised government and "real ID" which is a huge threat becoming reality.
Industrial Revolution anyone?
All a natural part of human evolution and development. The elite of that time were still just as corrupt and self serving as they are today.
You keep mentioning these 'elites'? Who might the elites be in your model you describe the middle classes, the armed forces, religion and ultimately sovereigns.
There would be no elites. There would be the community. No elites to manipulate societies, governments, no elites to rule, sacrifice the many for a few. No elites to commit mass murder by brainwashing societies into believing there is an enemy. There would just be the people and the peoples will. Everyone is educated, everyone understands their rights. The governments serve the people not the elites. Thats not a "utopia" because there is no such thing as a utopia as everything is always evolving and always changing. Humanity needs to stop being so scared of change.
Something I've learnt personally from my experience basically as a "drug addict" in the sense of abusing cannabis and alcohol. You end up "standing still" whilst going through these experiences. When you finally stop and come back to reality you realise the world has changed. Moral of that story is, if you stand still expecting no change the world will progress naturally and pass you by. The consequences of ignoring your problems will hit you so hard you won't be prepared to deal with them. Same happens in a society to people ignoring societies problems.
If you think ali that there is no consequences to your ignorance then you better wake up to what you've been ignoring. Each day this country is more and more developing into a surveillence police state, basically Big Brother, as in most western countries. If you deny that then one day your going to wake up with an RFID chip in your arm and no clue how the fuck it happened other than the fact you were told to get one for "security reasons."
Taking another look a history describing the politics of the Soviet Union where twenty men ruled the country, had private cars, planes, trains, drivers. While they dined on caviare and vodka people queued for bread and this is in a collectivist economy.
It was another society for the elite moron. No different than the soon to be totalitarian states developing around us now. Funny that the so called "left right divided" merges when the elite of a society need to secure their power. This happens in every empire. Happened in Rome, Nazi, Soviet and even the capitalist empire. Politics and media are merely tools for aquiring more power.
Your assault on capitalism is bizarre when yes as Blodo mentions about the current state of the US economy there are natural cycles of economic recession. I've never seen a bread line though in a recession for the last fifty years and under laissez faire capitalism we have the longest sustained economic development.
Research the banking system ali and also understand how war gets wastes excess and stops the collapse of the capitalist economy whilst also funnily enough making the capitalist elite even richer. War is nothing more than a scam of dominating for empires, making the top of societies richer and the bottom poorer.
With anarchy the end result is biker gangs roaming the country looking for food and women to rape, its a sad by realistic vision just like in Mad Max. Humans are corruptible and evil beings, laws are needed to stop them going up some granny in the street and stealing her purse.
Evolution ali. People are starting to care more. As intelligence rises so does change. I don't know why you believe in the planet of the apes, its not real.
This leads onto the point of the need to rebuild the Empire, in the Middle East there is no real form of democracy apart from Israel.
ROFL jesus... just jesus... Different culture you fascist prick. Ali why have you not joined the BNP yet? And even then what gives you the right to rule another culture?
I wouldn't exactly say Israel has a democracy either. Its nothing more than a fascist pound in the middle east that and it has committed more crimes than most other "democracys."
In Africa its not better
Thanks to our corporate friends and bankers.
The need for rule by a dominant power is there, we must go now and take them under our nurture otherwise that's when humanity goes to the dog and we all roam around in biker gangs on the scorched earth. With the Empire you would achieve peace, through the management of the UN the powers to be would control and with the regulation of the free market all problems would be peacefully sorted. This is my vision of the world, capitalism and the free market will solve the need for food, solve the need for water and end conflict with the combination of liberal imperialism which will end the need for a series of collective nation states into a united world.
Its a very scary vision, but it won't happen ali, even if it could, because corporations are too dominant and most people are more intelligent than that. ROFL and "liberal imperialism"!!!! Thats a contradiction. Ali you crack me up man.
I repeat: this is the 21st century, not the 1800s. I reckon you'd be better off there. Like i said, when CERN has developed such technology we will gladly send you there to help manage the british empire. And plus you'll have 200 years foresight! Who knows, if we send you back early you could even stop the American revolution!!
Edited by Hybrid, 17 April 2007 - 09:20 PM.