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#21 duke_Qa

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:03 PM

money is a bonus to get something you want, but its rarely any enjoyment to get money for the sake of having money. i barely spend money at all because i don't really see any reason in going on a shopping spree all the time. i got plenty with a good pc :)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 09:55 PM

I don't actually think all that, don't worry. It's meant in good humor, keep your cool.
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#23 duke_Qa

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:21 AM

found this on wikipedia about the play Peer Gynt, which is prolly not too well-known around the world but is one of the local national pieces of art that is a part of basic education.

"What is it to be one self", Peer asks in the end, and gets the answer: "to overcome one's self"

this i think is an good thing to say, as its pretty true.
if you never try to overcome yourself you have given up on the part of life that gives it meaning, to "evolve".

what is the point in living if you have no will to try to improve yourself or things that affects you?
you end up following the same routines day in and day out, until the day you realize you havent done anything with your life.

you have, metaphorically speaking, gotten up to level 3/60 and figured "eh, this is ok i guess, got cash, got food.
some people might get further in life but i would rather chill."


I don't actually think all that, don't worry. It's meant in good humor, keep your cool.


its the think tank, you should expect some heated discussion, its half the point.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 03:52 AM

I believe the path of happiness has something to do with keeping on trying to better yourself. Sometime you get to a level of success, than just float there for awhile and chill. It doesn' take much time before you're figiting to do something more.

Im my situation, I can continue to sit at my current achievement level for the rest of my life. But that just makes me stagnant. And ulitmately depressed. And no where near my potential. Knowing there is more to achieve keeps me excited.

I often wonder how one feels when they are the President of the United States, and finish thier term. What is there left to do?

Like a famous rockstar. Like Madonna, what goals are there left to achieve?

It's like finishing the campaign on your favorite game. You can still play the game, but from that point on, but it's just lost the mystery of the goal you set for your self.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 12:28 PM

UN work for the betterment of the world, other aid organizations, back to your previous corporation to use your history as a sledgehammer to increase its revenues even more.

people are able to find alot of extra steps up the ladder once they get there. naturally sometimes people find that a retirement might look attractive. as president in the states theres a big chance your hair is grey and your eyes are blurry when you are done, so you are already pretty close to the retirement-border.

other jobs of greatness on the other hand usually gives you access to it without being way too old(sometimes at least), so theres always a chance you have time to do something else.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 02:17 PM

I believe the path of happiness has something to do with keeping on trying to better yourself. Sometime you get to a level of success, than just float there for awhile and chill. It doesn' take much time before you're figiting to do something more.

Im my situation, I can continue to sit at my current achievement level for the rest of my life. But that just makes me stagnant. And ulitmately depressed. And no where near my potential. Knowing there is more to achieve keeps me excited.

I often wonder how one feels when they are the President of the United States, and finish thier term. What is there left to do?

Like a famous rockstar. Like Madonna, what goals are there left to achieve?

It's like finishing the campaign on your favorite game. You can still play the game, but from that point on, but it's just lost the mystery of the goal you set for your self.


Success is bullshit and a waste of fucking time and my life.

I spit upon success. It's laughable and pathetic.
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:07 PM

if you mean that success only means "get a ton of cash and a yacht" then i would agree. but sucess can be so many things beyond materialistic needs, as its not like you can make your own goals. to be successful means, in my opinion, that you have managed to achieve some goal in your life.

if you disagree on that you would more or less be a nihilist, as if people are not allowed to have success in their lives, how are they supposed to live? :p

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:08 PM

What do you define as succes?
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:35 PM

Wait...you guys seem to be implying that there's more to life than money and material goods! This will take a while to comprehend.
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 10:19 PM

I am very nihilistic when I am in my more philosophical moods. I think what almost everyone would class as success is pathetic.

So what does success mean to everyone here?
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 10:37 PM

I don't count success as necessarily being financial overachievement, Kal. It's not often I agree with Hostile over you, but I think he's got you on this one.

I count success being achievement of significant desired goals in any endeavour.

A 'successful person', semantically, refers to one who has made lots of money for themself.

I prefer to take it to mean one who, by way of skill, good fortune, smarts or by any combination of these and/or other factors, has, by and large achieved most of their desired goals.

By my definitions, Hostile's hit it bang on the mark. By the human nature of greed (though not necessarily for monetary gain...perhaps 'hunger for betterment' would be the better term, though even that could have pejorative or even capitalistic slant), a human of current modern mindset is, on the whole never content with what they have, and will always want more.

Take the scientist. Where would the world be if every researcher suddenly looked and thought: "Meh, what's the point? We've advanced as far as we need to, let's all quit our jobs."

Soon as we hit the milestone, we must automatically seek the next one. Even if we stop for a rest, eventually we must pick up the pace again. The seven-year-itch and promiscuity are two other classic although not-often-thought-of examples.

Once we have achieved our lifelong ambition, we don't just rest on our laurels or else we become bored. It's human nature. We just get another ambition.

Corporate ambition is surprisingly limited. Think about it. "We have money. What do we want now?" "MORE money!"

How shallow is that?

One I am could relate to significantly more would be something like, "K, so I'm a Psychologist. what now?" "Raise a family!"

There is no maximum potential for anything human, whether regards individual, societal or occupational development. There is always room for improvement or advancement. For all but the shallowest, the next milestone is usually offset at an angle from the last.

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 12:12 AM

Ultimately, there is no significance to anything you could possibly manage.

Nothing has any meaning whatsoever... but then what on earth could have meaning? What on earth do you expect from life?

A bit more, that was all. Some direction.We're rats in cages, no matter what we do it won't be remembered or have any lasting effect on anything. We're killing time, having a bit of a play about until we die. And then who cares.

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 04:36 AM

You know, we might get along just fine.
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:02 AM

And I am still appalled at the pussy-whippedness of all you doomsayers. Kal, if you truly believe what you say, why are you going to university?

In fact, if any of you truly believe what you say, why the hell get up in the morning? Why not just end it all now :crazed:

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 05:27 PM

BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO BE IN A JOKING TONE. ARE YOU BLIND? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT: THIS ISN'T SERIOUS!
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 06:13 PM

nothing on these forums is serious, if it was serious we would have been in real politics and not on some forum ^_^



but yeah, education is for me a part of what i would define as success. i have alot of friends who havent bothered to continue with their education and i really feel that they are missing out on something. but then again, they have other goals than i have in their lives.



claiming that all kinds of success is completely irrelevant is very nihilistic and perhaps even fatalistic. one of humanity's main traits are in my opinion the will to strive for something. the only ones who will agree with that would be the elite so that their kids would get less competition in getting anywhere.

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 10:15 PM

BECAUSE IT'S MEANT TO BE IN A JOKING TONE. ARE YOU BLIND? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT: THIS ISN'T SERIOUS!


Shouldn't really be in the fucking Deep Thought then, should it?

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:34 PM

Am I the only person willing to admit I want huge amounts of money? ZOMG! Yes, really, I want money! I've met too many people I couldn't help when they needed something because I lacked the financial resources. And you all hated money that badly, you wouldn't have brought a computer with which to buy internet access to bitch about money. If you don't like it, change it. If you can't be arsed to change it, it can't be that bad.

We're killing time, having a bit of a play about until we die. And then who cares.

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:52 PM

All we ever need in this world is sex, death and money. Everything else is meaningless. If you hate money so badly, give it to me ^_^


Add food and high speed internet to that list and I'd agree with you ;)
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 01:00 AM

All we ever need in this world is sex, death and money. Everything else is meaningless. If you hate money so badly, give it to me ^_^


Add food and high speed internet to that list and I'd agree with you :p

if you're getting enough sex then highspeed internet is irrelevant. And food? Eat pussy, especially if she's on. The kebab always tastes better with chilli sauce :xd:


There are other uses for the internet besides porn ;)
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