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[Neth]

But shouldn't it be for all heroes over a certain cost that do that make everyone angry/scared, not only Theoden. I think everyone would be just as, if not more disheartened if Gandalf was killed.

[The Hawk of Light]

For me the only ring heroes is Sauron and Galadriel, other heroes with an exception of Gandalf our Elrond only becomes invisible.

[Argeleb]

Rohan units slaughtering anything? Even allies ?

Edited by Argeleb, 01 February 2009 - 08:13 AM.

[Uruk King]

I doubt it, that would be madness. But the question is, which heroes would cause your army to become a sea of wrath of a demoralised rabble?

[Puppeteer]

This opposite of this is being planned for Theoden. When he dies, your rohan units go crazy and become unselectable but start slaughtering everything around them. Huge damage boosts.

I would have said something along the lines of this is better than fleeing, if you lose something that you're fighting for what's left to go back to? A demoralised town of civilians? Taking revenge seems more apt to me.

[Devon]

The reason we're using for Theoden is Eomer's total red rage and take as many of them with me attitude when he died.


And no, they don't kill allies But you do lose control of them, and they go slaughter any enemy they see.

[Argeleb]

That's logical

[{IP} Aridor]

I think for some heroes if you lost them it would send your men into a rage and some it would totally demoralize them. Gandalf I think would be a huge demoralizer if he died. The more invincible a person seems the more you feel hopeless when they fall.

[Dalf32]

agreed aa, gandalf is a great leader and a symbol of power for the fol, but hes not really close to any faction like theoden is to rohan. he is not a king, he is more of a friendly wanderer so he would really enrage allies upon death. the only heros that should enrage are kings i think, so jsut theoden and perhaps aragorn once hes been upgraded via the palantir power (cant remember the name). i dont see elves losing control in any circumstances, not sure about dwarves though.

[{IP} Aridor]

Dwarves more then anything. Have you read about the Dwarves battle against the goblins? They went on a rampaging war through the mountains just because the leader of the moria goblins killed Thor. The Dwarves were fiercely loyal and held their honor above all. I anybody would go into a rage it would be a dwarve.

[Dalf32]

its been a long time since ive read the hobbit so im a smidge rusty
so whats the tally now? theoden, dain and perhaps aragorn to instill rage, and gandalf to instill fear?

[Rafv Nin IV]

Perhaps King Brand should do the same thing, but only for Dale units?

And to the guest: the mod has a unique and in all ways awesome Ring System being worked on. The Evil Campaign is a long way off, and will probably follow the idea of Sauron gaining back the ring, then go all kick-ass against the FOL.

[Hasfusel]

Right.

Evil forces, being cowardly and having no honour, would be disheartened and lose morale at the loss of a hero. If the evil faction's leader or mightiest hero (Saruman, the Witch-King, Sauron, Drogoth) were killed, they'd break and flee.

Men would break if Aragorn or Gandalf were killed, because it would be like their only hope falling into shadow. However, if a lower leader was killed who was dear to them, such as Theoden or Boromir, there's a chance that after they'd recovered from the initial shock, they'd rally with anger and seek to avenge their fallen leader whatever the cost.

Rob should look at our discussion and work out what he wants.

[mike_]

I don't think of Theoden as a 'lesser' hero.

[Devon]

I think it's more the Rohirric mindset over the Gondor one...

[Puppeteer]

However, if a lower leader was killed who was dear to them, such as Theoden

Completely misunderstand the point, did you?

[The Hawk of Light]

Why the banners carries have a best skin than the rest of the battalion? The Lórien fighter/arches for example, dont have noise, except the banner...

Edited by The Hawk of Light, 02 February 2009 - 12:18 AM.

[CIL]

Faramir, without a doubt, should be one of the ones that makes the allies more powerful upon his death. Beregond killed 3 other citadel guards because Faramir and what not.

Edited by Elrond of Imladris, 02 February 2009 - 01:50 AM.