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#61 Nazgûl

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:40 PM

If we get him, and use him, I'd like him as a really cheap hero, kind of like Arwen (800), and having his best feture beeing to boost a mumak while mounted (speed, attack accuracy, and stuff like that) =)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:34 PM

A bit strange, having a Mumak hero as an early gmae hero. I suggest make Gothmag the cheapest hero (namely 1200), and have Mahud at 2000.
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:38 PM

Mahud is not A Mumak... he's a Mumak Rider :p He will still need a Mumak o become really valuable. Without it he would be a simply melee soldier kind of. If we ever get him in that is...

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 07:49 PM

I think what Uruk king was trying to say is that it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to have a really cheap, say your 800, hero thats designed almost primarily for a function that costs 8000 in order to be effective.

Plus the fact that normal Haradrim cost more than orcs makes it strange that the Haradrim hero costs less than an orc one. All I suggest is that you make gothmog cost 800-900 and make Mahud cost whatever gothmog used to, which is something like 1300.

Wont it be dificult to have him mount a mumikil. If your attempts at doing that fail, then I would suggest you make him cost 5000 (mumikil's cost + his) and give him a mount Mumikil command thats similar to the mount Fellbeast and mount Horse commands, except with a Mumikil. Or have him built from the Mumikil Pen and come already on the mumikil.

Although Mordor has alot of heroes, they have very little variety, there's only about 3 different ones because they have the same one 8 times, so having Mahud would be pretty nice. Also if you dont get the model you can still make him out of the creat-a-hero stuff, like I said his armor looks pretty similar to it.

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 08:53 PM

By model, do you mean the basic structure and his movements, or the skin? 'cause if its the skin, no offense, I have seen better.

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Instead of a hero, why not make him an upgrade on a muma? He can only be bought once, and it will add him riding the muma, automatically giving the muma rank 10. Also maybe add less expensive riders to the list of upgrades that can be bought for all, ranking them up to rank three (I think they start at 2).

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 03:43 AM

Model always means model as in the 3D-model with anims and everything. The look of the model (not the shape but the actual coloring and detail) is always refered to as the Skin. I can reskin any model, but I can't model, so it's the model I need. Or maybe we can make one new from the CaH... I never thought of that. The most difficlt part will be getting him to ride the Mumak, but I think it was done in BoG and another mod, so we'll have to ask around (I have to) =p

About him as a hero... I imagine that he would slay on orc with odds like 7 to 3 as he's probably a pretty skilled warrior, but I also imagine that Gothmog beeing the Morgul Commander would cut him in half if they ever would face eachother as enemies, so if I use Mahud, he will be cheap and function the way I said :)

I wont make this any major project though, so we'll see. He wont go into this Beta anyways.

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 10:02 PM

*list updated*

Now I've put the remaining things from the regular ToDO List in here as well, so this will be the official ToDO List soon....

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 01:15 AM

*cough* Don't we have a modler, now *cough* :xcahik_:

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 01:37 AM

Yes we do... why? :xcahik_:

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 01:39 AM

Mahud?

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 01:44 AM

Yeah maybe, we'll see. I still don't know how much Master Windu is going to be able to do. He's got a lot on his hands, but I'll ask him. Better though if we could use something like this, but I doubt he will let it go to us... :xcahik_:

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 01:47 AM

And who's might that be? 'Cause that's kinda nice.

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 02:04 AM

Indeed it is.. It's an awesome modder who seems to be doing most stuff himself... Coding, Skinning, Modeling, AI, you name it... I think he does it all? Impressive skills!!! He calls himself Der Alte, he's german, and you can see his work here:

http://forums.revora...showtopic=35584

I'd "kill" (well a beatle or something at least, lol) for a Mahud/Muhad (what IS he's name Zimoo??? Help?) like that... But I PM'd him so we'll see. If he wont answer, that I guess that's as good as "go hm hm youself"... lol, which I totally respect. But I HAD to ask... :xcahik_:

Mahud/Muhad is one of the last heroes that I need for this mod... I'm also scouting for King Brand as you know, but I guess we could use the Faramir model for that and just reskin him - that I can do :p

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 06:36 PM

Are you seriously asking me to help you out with a hero only in the films? That's crazy talk, even if it is just the spelling of his/her name :p

Can't you make something similar to that through CAH and reskins?
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:16 PM

But IS he a hero actually? I thought every mumakil had a rider to 'guide' him?
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:58 PM

I sure hope there was a driver! That's why I suggested them as an upgrade.

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 08:21 PM

Hmmmm, now that you mention it... that IS a good question. Who "drives" those things really??? Cause as far as I can remeber from the movie, I only saw one rider and that was that dude :p I huess I always thought of them beeing "driven" from one of the dudes in the houda? =p

I didn't know he was not mentioned anywhere in the books... sorry Zimoo :)

If they ALL have (should have) riders, then the whole idea isn't that "cool" as I imagined it anymore, lol

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 08:23 PM

No no, it's a great idea! Don't scrap it :(
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 09:09 PM

Though I would say this goes in the comments thread, but it is a great idea! Think of it...Cool looking muma's, it's realistic, etc. And I remember other drivers from the RotK.

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 01:32 AM

Actually Clone the comments thread is locked. And Nazgul, in terms of the book, it doesnt actually say as the battle scenes are really condensed, Tolkien gave almost no detail of the battles. All it said was that the Mumakil were "goaded to war" not by whom though. In order to solve the problem of such massive creatures are controlled, I would just assume that there is just some guy driving it.
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