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#1 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 09:42 AM

After a really long break, I have finally returned to continue working on WotE. Thanks for keeping the forums alive while I was away :blink:

After the Private Beta of Evil Men I port the mod to Patch 2.01. After that I will start working on Mordor, since it's not very functional due to the fact that they have no Evil Men units any more. Servant of Sauron has done some great brainstorming and I can now announce at least some of the new units of Mordor (the Mordor units from earlier WotE versions are also included):

NEW HEROES:
- Gorbag (Orc of Minas Morgul)
- Shagrat (Leader of the Uruk-hai garrison of the Tower of Cirth Ungol)
- Mollock, Troll of Gorgoroth (Cheiftain of the Trolls of Mordor)
- Boldog (Maia in Orc from, Structure hero, recruited from Dark Tent/Morgul Tower)
- Shelob (Spider from Torech Ungol)

NEW UNITS:
- Orc Scouts (Early game scouts)
- Orc Spearmen (Basic pikemen)
- Morgul Achers (Elite archers)
- Spiderlings (Special unit)
- Spider-Riders (Elite cavalry [Please don't kill me because of that :unsure: ])
- Morgul Warg Riders (Basic cavalry)
- Black Uruks (Elite swordsmen)
- Gorgoroth Berserker (Heavy swordsmen)
- Pikemen of Morgul Vale (Heavy Pikemen)

NEW STRUCTURES:
- Dark Tent/Morgul Tower (Trains Black Uruks, Gorgoroth Berserker, Boldog and Pikemen of Morgul Vale)
- Spider Pit (Trains Spiderlings and Spider-Riders)

I've also got some more ideas, and Servant of Sauron has sent me some really cool ones as well, but these are all for now ;)

Please post your ideas and suggestions here!

Edited by IthronAiwendil, 13 May 2007 - 10:11 AM.


#2 Allathar

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:22 AM

- Gorbag was the Uruk and Shagrat the orc

- In the book the Mouth of Sauron comes out of the Black Gate along with some Dark Numenorian soldiers, perhaps they could be the uber-elite

- There were also many Dark Numenorian riders coming out of Minas Morgul in the book of TTT

- Perhaps a cool idea would be to introduce 'Orc Snaga', similar to BfME1 orcs, very weak, no cost, low cp, you get powerpoints yourself if they are getting killed, so this would make mordor-players spam orcs more to get the movie-feeling of mordor again
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#3 IthronAiwendil

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:37 AM

Gorbag was the orc, Shagrat was the Uruk. Check the books if you don't believe me, but I think every Tolkien fan here will agree with me about this :unsure:

I might include some Morgul Knights as basic infantry for Mordor.

#4 JEV3

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:52 AM

I personally like the Spider Riders... Though I am hoping maybe you could change the model that sits on top of the spider because he is UGLY... (yeah I know.... supposed to be ugly... but he is not even looking like an orc)

EDIT: Checked the books, Shagrat was the uruk, but Gorbag was the one that wanted to keep the shirt...

Edited by JEV3, 13 May 2007 - 11:59 AM.

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#5 D_bershevits

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 01:00 PM

Welcome back, And good ideas
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#6 Juissi

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 02:12 PM

- Spider-Riders (Elite cavalry [Please don't kill me because of that :unsure: ])

Im coming for ya ;)
Not really imo spider riders arent even that bad. Nice to see ya back :blink:

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 02:25 PM

Gorbag was the orc, Shagrat was the uruk :unsure:
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#8 Lauri

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 03:35 PM

Nobody's 100% sure....

Some say PJ mixed them, but frankly, he never named them... So, for all refrence to the two, non in the movie crew namned them I think.. Most likely cause PJ wasn't sure himself :unsure:

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#9 Servant of Sauron

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 04:22 PM

Shagrat has black skin and Gorbag has pale green skin. The former is the Uruk and the latter is the Orc.

That said I may have messed that up in my brainstorm so if I did I'm sorry :dry:

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 04:32 PM

Just checked it, in the books Shagrat was the uruk and gorbag the orc. But I'm 100% sure in the movies PJ mixed them, because Gorbag was the one who wanted to keep the shirt and in the movie he was dark-skinned.

So:
Movies: Shagrat orc, Gorbag Uruk, Gorbag wants to keep the shirt
Books: Shagrat Uruk, Gorbag orc, Gorbag wants to keep the shirt
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#11 Servant of Sauron

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:53 PM

Uruks are very disciplined and so the Orc(which ever he is, God only knows at this point)would want the shirt. Well at least according to Tolkien.

Edited by Servant of Sauron, 13 May 2007 - 11:53 PM.

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