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#41 the drazz

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 01:48 AM

In fact, had Zsinj not attacked it, the Razor's Kiss would have been rolling off the lines right around the time Thrawn would have needed it... and since it was new, Kuat wouldn't have lost anything from its defense fleet. Staffing would have been no problem; Thrawn had clones for that. 178 Dreadnaughts sans slave-rigging would have required a crew total of 2,885,380... which just happens to be in-line with the approximated crew count for a 19-kilometer Executor-class at 3,300,000. And since the Kiss was never actually commissioned, it really isn't associated with anyone else and never will be. So I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that Thrawn could have acquired it and put it into service; I mean, it just makes too much sense. I'll give that to him as his final upgrade.



The Razor's Kiss was destroyed 7.5 aby, Before it was even commissioned. Thrawn came from the unknown regions 8 to 9 aby. I do think Thrawn needs an Executor though. He could have got his hands on the Reaper. http://starwars.wiki...Executor-class) Other than the Guardian and the Lusankya, I think the Reaper was the only surviving Executor class that wasnt in New Republic Hands, seeing as the Knight Hammer wasnt built yet.

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 12:41 AM

In fact, had Zsinj not attacked it, the Razor's Kiss would have been rolling off the lines right around the time Thrawn would have needed it... and since it was new, Kuat wouldn't have lost anything from its defense fleet. Staffing would have been no problem; Thrawn had clones for that. 178 Dreadnaughts sans slave-rigging would have required a crew total of 2,885,380... which just happens to be in-line with the approximated crew count for a 19-kilometer Executor-class at 3,300,000. And since the Kiss was never actually commissioned, it really isn't associated with anyone else and never will be. So I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that Thrawn could have acquired it and put it into service; I mean, it just makes too much sense. I'll give that to him as his final upgrade.



The Razor's Kiss was destroyed 7.5 aby, Before it was even commissioned. Thrawn came from the unknown regions 8 to 9 aby. I do think Thrawn needs an Executor though. He could have got his hands on the Reaper. http://starwars.wiki...Executor-class) Other than the Guardian and the Lusankya, I think the Reaper was the only surviving Executor class that wasnt in New Republic Hands, seeing as the Knight Hammer wasnt built yet.

Shouldn't we give that to Pelleaon, and either leave Thrawn with the Kiss, or not give him an SSD?

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:21 AM

Shouldn't we give that to Pelleaon, and either leave Thrawn with the Kiss, or not give him an SSD?


Well if we are talking about the Thrawn campaign, then we should give it to Thrawn because he had a higher rank then Pelleaon at the time. And I would think it would be hard to give Thrawn a ship that had been utterly destroyed and scrapped by the time he came into the galaxy. But thats just what I think.

I think the whole purpose of giving the empire a executor hero in the Thrawn campaign would be to counter the Lusankya.

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 01:07 PM

Shouldn't we give that to Pelleaon, and either leave Thrawn with the Kiss, or not give him an SSD?


Well if we are talking about the Thrawn campaign, then we should give it to Thrawn because he had a higher rank then Pelleaon at the time. And I would think it would be hard to give Thrawn a ship that had been utterly destroyed and scrapped by the time he came into the galaxy. But thats just what I think.

I think the whole purpose of giving the empire a executor hero in the Thrawn campaign would be to counter the Lusankya.

Still, we have to use the same heroes in every campaign. Or maybe we don't. We could make a special Thrawn version, where he has the Reaper, only for the Thrawn campaign, where in others he has the Kiss, and Pelleaon the Reaper.

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:41 PM

Shouldn't we give that to Pelleaon, and either leave Thrawn with the Kiss, or not give him an SSD?


Well if we are talking about the Thrawn campaign, then we should give it to Thrawn because he had a higher rank then Pelleaon at the time. And I would think it would be hard to give Thrawn a ship that had been utterly destroyed and scrapped by the time he came into the galaxy. But thats just what I think.

I think the whole purpose of giving the empire a executor hero in the Thrawn campaign would be to counter the Lusankya.

Still, we have to use the same heroes in every campaign. Or maybe we don't. We could make a special Thrawn version, where he has the Reaper, only for the Thrawn campaign, where in others he has the Kiss, and Pelleaon the Reaper.

Sounds good to me. But we do need to balance that with the rebels, as the imps seem to be getting more heroes, and more of them are getting OMG-powerful ships.

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 08:45 PM

Shouldn't we give that to Pelleaon, and either leave Thrawn with the Kiss, or not give him an SSD?


Well if we are talking about the Thrawn campaign, then we should give it to Thrawn because he had a higher rank then Pelleaon at the time. And I would think it would be hard to give Thrawn a ship that had been utterly destroyed and scrapped by the time he came into the galaxy. But thats just what I think.

I think the whole purpose of giving the empire a executor hero in the Thrawn campaign would be to counter the Lusankya.

Still, we have to use the same heroes in every campaign. Or maybe we don't. We could make a special Thrawn version, where he has the Reaper, only for the Thrawn campaign, where in others he has the Kiss, and Pelleaon the Reaper.

Sounds good to me. But we do need to balance that with the rebels, as the imps seem to be getting more heroes, and more of them are getting OMG-powerful ships.

You're right on that. I tried to add saboteurs, but they didn't work. Maybe we need a few more Dreadnaught heroes, along with a good countermeasure for those ships (Lucrehulk?)

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 02:50 AM

I say the rebels need the Viscount, as well as the MC-90. Maybe even a few other republic star destroyer classes that were present in the Yuuzhan vong war, and the Bothan assault cruiser.

I also think there need to be a couple more mid-sized imperial ships, like the pocket star destroyer Pellaeon was commanding during the legacy book series.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 03:24 AM

I'm not really for adding much in the way of new units until the UI problem is solved...

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 02:13 PM

I say the rebels need the Viscount, as well as the MC-90. Maybe even a few other republic star destroyer classes that were present in the Yuuzhan vong war, and the Bothan assault cruiser.

I also think there need to be a couple more mid-sized imperial ships, like the pocket star destroyer Pellaeon was commanding during the legacy book series.

Suggested ships: New Class. Viscount is good, though.

I'm not really for adding much in the way of new units until the UI problem is solved...

See my suggestion on ship replacements.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 08:13 PM

If you're gonna split the New Republic SD's up, I'd keep the current Republic class while adding the Defender and Republic Nebula classes.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 01:09 AM

If you're gonna split the New Republic SD's up, I'd keep the current Republic class while adding the Defender and Republic Nebula classes.

I want those added as well. Also, the rest of the new class, though that's been said before.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:07 PM

How do you know all this??? Can I please know your sources?

Meh, I've been a fanboy for a really long time. Original sources when I can, but Wookieepedia works in a pinch. I've written a few things for them, but I'm not too keen on the edit-happy fanatics that troll it, so I mostly leave that up to them, since they don't always like how I do things. For example, just listing one shield rating doesn't really tell the whole story when there are five different representations from five different games... that's the kind of stuff I take into consideration that Wookieepedia doesn't.

Still, we have to use the same heroes in every campaign. Or maybe we don't. We could make a special Thrawn version, where he has the Reaper, only for the Thrawn campaign, where in others he has the Kiss, and Pelleaon the Reaper.

Hero upgrades are already crazy enough as they are without introducing multiple versions.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 06:17 PM

Hero upgrades are already crazy enough as they are without introducing multiple versions.

I agree with you there. That comment was made as a point of canon, but I support the Kiss, with the Reaper for Pelleaon.



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