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#1 Rawlo

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 12:07 AM

Hey

Just thought I might bring to the attention of the high and mighties that there is in fact no delete your own post function for standard members. I was wondering if that could be change, tis the one thing that really bites about being demoted. was probebly the most usefull thing about having a rank.

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#2 Jeeves

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 09:07 AM

Only project team+ have the ability to delete their posts.

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#3 Rawlo

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 10:11 AM

I'm aware of that, I'm trying to bring it to the attention of people who might have forgotten in the hope that it could be changed
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Posted 08 June 2007 - 03:42 PM

The ability to delete your own messages can be used to change the appearance of a topic drastically, potentially making other members look bad or foolish, etc.

Becoming a normal member is free for all, there are no costs and no restrictions aside from the request that you abide the forum guidelines.
The majority of member won't abuse their ability to delete their posts, but there will be some who will.

Sadly, the result is that we have to put a limit on the usergroup anyone can get into. Not the way we'd like to have it, but there is little choice.

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 09:58 PM

fair enough :blush:
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 02:15 PM

if you really want to delete a post, just edit it to be empty. that way people will at least see your empty edited posts, so they'll be less confused if a reference to it is made in the posts below
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 11:41 PM

Sorry Solinx but that's bollocks.

You won't restrict guest posting because there are possibly some guests who will abuse it, but you will restrict the abilities of members because there are possibly some members who will?

Fucking hypocrites. Quit biting the carrot at both fucking ends.

Edited by Paradox, 09 June 2007 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2007 - 08:48 PM

Sorry Solinx but that's bollocks.

You won't restrict guest posting because there are possibly some guests who will abuse it, but you will restrict the abilities of members because there are possibly some members who will?

Fucking hypocrites. Quit biting the carrot at both fucking ends.

It's not about one and the same carrot Paradox. It's about a carrot and an apple. Two things quite different from eachother.

Allowing people to post without requirements is quite another thing from restricting people in their abilities to delete their messages.

Both can be abused, but the benefits and effects are quite different.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 08:49 AM

Not really. They're still restrictions (or derestrictions) on your posting privileges. And the reason you have given for not enabling it is the direct converse of the argument you give in favour of guest posting. That is why I count it as one and the same.

And as far as many members are concerned, the benefits would outweigh the costs in that there are always those occasions when the forum or the internet goes slow, or you realise your message prolly wasn't such a good idea.

I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why members should not be allowed to delete their posts. What sort of sad-act would actually go out of their way to delete a post 'to make someone look silly'? I don't see how. I can actually see some use for it. Indeed, editing a post to be empty makes the poster look silly. Therefore, nobody wins, everybody loses.

Statement retraction is not something you should stop. Freedom of speech? How's about some freedom NOT to speak too?

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:45 PM

Maybe make a new thing, like senior members or something, and let them be able to delete their posts.
That way long-time members will be able to delete their posts, but newer members won't be able to.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 02:52 PM

And as far as many members are concerned, the benefits would outweigh the costs in that there are always those occasions when the forum or the internet goes slow, or you realise your message prolly wasn't such a good idea.

I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why members should not be allowed to delete their posts. What sort of sad-act would actually go out of their way to delete a post 'to make someone look silly'? I don't see how. I can actually see some use for it. Indeed, editing a post to be empty makes the poster look silly. Therefore, nobody wins, everybody loses.


When a person edits a post, you can notice that the post was edited (unless the person has admin powers or global moderation powers, I think). That doesn't happen when you delete a post.

@Elvenlord: The closest thing to the senior member group that you suggested is called Project Team and they can delete their posts.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:00 PM

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:39 PM

Cant you (Revora as a group, not one person) just allow members to delete their own posts instead of being to stuck up about it, its so simple. If your really bothered about catching someone bitching about Revora then having second thoughts it will soon become apparent.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 04:50 PM

When a person edits a post, you can notice that the post was edited (unless the person has admin powers or global moderation powers, I think). That doesn't happen when you delete a post.

Whoo, fuck-a-doodle-do, the sky's gonna fall in just 'cuz of that... Jesus Christ man, a five-year-old could prolly formulate a better counterargument. Assuming there actually was a good counterargument...

@Elvenlord: The closest thing to the senior member group that you suggested is called Project Team and they can delete their posts.

He means a postcount-related ranking.

Why not simply stop validating members from deleting? Regular members shouldn't be denied the ability. I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why regular members are not allowed to delete their posts.


In truth, I actually oppose the 'edited by' line for one's own post. There's been a million times when I realise I have typo'd after the fact and it makes me look a dickhead going back and changing it. But I'm not making my mouth about that because I don't want to be any more difficult than I have to be.


Although I genuinely see no reason why you must be so difficult apart from this lovely lovely vendetta you have.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 05:04 PM

I'm not opposed to the idea of having a senior member group for people with 50 or more posts. Good idea Elvenlord ^_^

There are new members who do cause trouble. There have been some I'd certainly not be surprised to have seen removing all their posts if they could have. Mostly these are the rude, usually young, newbies who get tucked out by the community pretty much right at the start. Sad thing there are people like that, but there's little we can do about that.

That's why I'll go no further than 50 posts. That gives the majority of active members the ability to delete their posts, while it keeps the spammy rude newbies from deleting their posts after they get tucked out by the community.

Although I genuinely see no reason why you must be so difficult apart from this lovely lovely vendetta you have.

Could you stop trying to bait him? Thank you. Banshee isn't the only one opposed to the idea of allowing every member to delete their messages.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 06:25 PM

Meh whatever. It makes the thread more fun and it gives him more cause to reply...usually he wouldn't bother. ^_^


But yeh. 50 posts seems reasonable...

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 08:30 PM

Well put. ^_^

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 08:42 PM

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Ohmm Myhh Gohhdd I haveeE LikExZ 0 PosTs AnDDtt Can DelettE My PostozRs
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Well i geuss that would happen without the 50 post count.. this might happen with:

post 1 : yes you right post 2 cool post 3 Oh my God... ETC
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you see this???? now you wont... Ha-Ha..
just saying that it would be better to put it up to a count wich couldnt be achived in one day? like 75?

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 09:51 PM

I demand to be senior members because I'm an oldbie!
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 10:25 PM

If ever there was an argument for self-post-deletion, there it is. Ali, if Banshee promotes you to senior member/project/whatever, will you please go and delete every post you ever made in the HoP and Deep Thought? Cheers.




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