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#1 Hostile

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Posted 21 June 2007 - 01:17 AM

So we're talking about Jews (first definition doesn't even refer to a race or religion?!), yet some people call them Zions, or Israelis? (Israelites?!)

Yet not all Israelis are Jewish. But yet all Israelies are Zionists. See Zionism is the the agenda to protect Israel and support it's existance. Because you can't be Israeli without being a Zionist. It defeats the definition.

But this same definition states it's a jewish thing. :thumbsupsmiley: It's a paradox of definitions.

But do they speak Jewish? No they speak Hebrew. :lol: But wait! If you look at the definition of hebrew you get THIS which has defined them as a hebrew race.

Now if someone doesn't find this amusing than go eat a poopy sandwhich.

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Posted 21 June 2007 - 09:31 AM

I find it to be a definite clusterfuck of an idea, that they would want to intertwine so many names instead of just using one name, like 'Jew'. God, it makes my head hurt. Can I get that poopy sandwich now? :D

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Posted 21 June 2007 - 04:12 PM

OMGWTF PARADOX!!

:D , nice research Hostile.
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 04:22 PM

But yet all Israelies are Zionists.

Don't you think that's a bit overgeneralising?
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 10:56 PM

*hands codecat a poopy sandwich*

Would be rather hard to be Israeli and not support, y'know, the existance of Israel. Either way, you take things too seriously, unclench and laugh. ;)

er, btw, I thought it was great :p
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:09 AM

How so? I'm Dutch but I don't support the existence of the Netherlands.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:23 PM

meh, this is a strange topic, dunno if i should laugh or cry :p

i cannot support the Israelis methods of creating Israel, but it would be hopeless to say that means that Israel has no right to exist. they should just have done it in a very different way than the way we've seen them use as of yet.

what comes around goes around in my opinion, for better or worse.

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 02:09 AM

I really just made this thread for fun. :(

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 08:45 AM

How so? I'm Dutch but I don't support the existence of the Netherlands.

You don't pay taxes? :p

I really just made this thread for fun. :(

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 04:34 PM

Welcome to the craziness that is the former British Empire. Same thing's been going on in Africa, Hong Kong, and India for years, but Israel was a blunder of a completely new level. It's craaaaaaaazy.
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:13 PM

You don't pay taxes? :grin:

What does paying taxes have to do with supporting a country's existence? I pay taxes to support the people, not the country. The country is an empty thing.
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:35 PM

By definition, paying taxes is giving your money to the government to it can function isn't it? Seems like you're supporting it to me :grin:
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 07:00 PM

No, the government is there to support the people. Like I said, a country is empty and meaningless by itself.
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 07:37 PM

No! Don't fall into that trap, CC! You're reciting democratic political idealism! Governments aren't there to support the people. It's a common misconception! :grin:

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 01:55 AM

*pulls net-trap, catching Codecat* Mwahahaha! Now nothing can save him, not even you Ash! We will brainwash him, and make him believe in democracy... by force. *sends Codecat to Guantanamo Bay, for 're-education'* :grin:

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first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
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From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
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Posted 24 June 2007 - 10:49 AM

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:14 PM

hehehe. and the ironic part is thats pretty much how the people outside the western world will look upon democracy. one might wonder why they would prefer dictators and oppression, but its quite clear at times better than being bombed to hell and back.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:51 PM

Democracy is the freedom to choose our own dictators :rolleyes:
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Posted 24 June 2007 - 05:01 PM

That's what they'd like you to believe. :rolleyes:

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:32 PM

You don't pay taxes? :p

What does paying taxes have to do with supporting a country's existence? I pay taxes to support the people, not the country. The country is an empty thing.

Don't delude yourself. You pay taxes to the government, what happens from that point is up to your government. You support the existance of your government whether you do so willingly or not.
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