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#1 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 02:22 AM

Ok, i've started a mod for CnC Yuri's Revenge.

I've Atempted to add a new side DTA(Death To All)
The countries are Canada,Italy, and Poland. So Far.

I need help because......
1. It Crashes every time you try to play.(Instant gameover)
2. The tutorials say I need to set AI's for the new Countries.(I have no clue how to do that)
3.There has never been A Great Mod without a modding team.
4.I'm not artistic and I can't make shp's or Voxels.

So if anyone wants to join/help.........

Heres the basic layout/Thought:::
(I copied my post so people wouldn't have to read through the entire thread.)

DTA-Canadians,Italians,Polish-This is new side, still in work.

Canada-I was thinking of having more defensive such as more base defenses.
Italians-Should have special weapons such as kinetic,psykick,and radiation, etc.
Poland-I was thinking of having them more offensive, more tnak infantry etc.

Allied
Americans-Was ganna add Delta force operator and mabey some other things that are mabey similar.
Korea-More jets,planes,helis, etc. mabey even another airpad for themselves.
Britian-make a better sniper, give sniper tower, mabey something like a sniper tank.
France-Prolly give them a grand cannon tank and mabey a newer/better defensive cannon.
Germans-Having like more anti-armor tanks and some anti armor defenses.

Soviets
Russia-Adding more Tesla defenses,Tanks, etc.
Libya-New demo truck and mabey like an explosive terrorist dog. Mabey a bio trooper.
Iraq-Desalator tank or something of the sort.
Cuba-Mabey something like cuban spy or something(I don't have many ideas for this country )

Yuri
Might split him up into different groups(but then again mabey not since just about everyone else does it)

New psykick tower, add more normal tanks so he can accually not have to realy on psykick crap.
Gatling boat, psykick boat,new flying disk, Alien trooper,, things like that

Add some things like sas or spetnaz to soviets, and some other basic yet we could use units such as medic repair boats and tanks.

Also i was wondering if it's possible to have a fighter(like air-to-air combat???)




*some of these I have cameos and voxels for some i don't

** also i havn't even mentioned much about the buildings but I/we could add things like oil derricks and might look into making building upgrades.

***Is this good enough for you guys?!?!?!?

Edited by yOmAmA, 11 July 2007 - 07:50 PM.


#2 OmegaBolt

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:32 AM

Ok, i've started a mod for CnC Yuri's Revenge.
It Doesn't Have a storyline....Yet.

Fail. If you don't have ideas it won't work.

I need help because......
1. It Crashes every time you try to play.(Instant gameover)

Learn to code and fix problems yourself.

2. The tutorials say I need to set AI's for the new Countries.(I have no clue how to do that)

Only need AIs for new sides, as stated in the RP manual you should have read. If your not using RP then it isn't really possible.

3.There has never been A Great Mod without a modding team.

Bollocks.

4.I'm not artistic and I can't make shp's or Voxels.

You should have thought of that.

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#3 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 05:31 PM

Fail. If you don't have ideas it won't work.


Learn to code and fix problems yourself.


Only need AIs for new sides, as stated in the RP manual you should have read. If your not using RP then it isn't really possible.


Bollocks.

You should have thought of that.



1.I have fucking ideas just not organized into a fucking storyline.
2.i've tried but know one will help me.
3.i read the damn RP manual i didn't see anything in it that helped me.
4.WTF?!?!?! is Bollocks???
5.wtf do you mean by you should have thought of that!?!?!?

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:48 PM

1.I have fucking ideas just not organized into a fucking storyline.

Basically what Obolt said in the first place if you dont have organised ideas it wont work. If you've got no real direction for your mod, how on earth are you going to lead a mod team

2.i've tried but know one will help me.

Its the way you are asking, try and be polite and someone might help you

3.i read the damn RP manual i didn't see anything in it that helped me.

Try reading the RP manual properly and you might get some where jackass!
Again try asking politely, its amazing where manners gets you

4.WTF?!?!?! is Bollocks???

Coin purse
Nut sack
The bit of flesh between your belly button and your gooche
Your damp tea bags
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Your personal ravioli
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Personal cannon ammo

5.wtf do you mean by you should have thought of that!?!?!?

Does exactly what it says on the tin

Have you actually tried reading what Obolt said in the first place? ^_^

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#5 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:03 PM

Its the way you are asking, try and be polite and someone might help you


I have asked nicely on my other thread but as you can see you guys are being assholes!

I posted to see if I could get help not fucking critisism, so either help me or fuck off Gosh...


And you want a fucknig story line heres one for ya,

DTA(death to all/Canada,Italy, and Poland) are getting sick of dicks liek you in other countries so they're going to kill you with everything they got, how's that assholes!

Edited by yOmAmA, 11 July 2007 - 07:08 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:06 PM

Lol sparkkie. ^_^

Coin purse
Nut sack
The bit of flesh between your belly button and your gooche
Your damp tea bags
The sagging satchel
Your personal ravioli
Love blurbs
Personal cannon ammo

What the hell is that. :xcahik_:

Now let's see...They are all right. If you have 5000 ideas and tell them all to your team, then they go to create it...5000 creations later you only want 10 of those 5000...I guess your mod team won't be to happy with that. I always set my mod up in word, like this.

SOVIETS

-Radar Tower is now able to build aircraft

Infantry
-Spetznas

Vehicles
-Sensor Drone

Navy
-Tesla Ship

Aircraft
-MiG

Buildings
-Advanced Tesla Coil
-Oil Pump

Infantry

Spetznas
Cost: $1200
Requires: Barracks, Battle Lab
Armed with a machien gun and a sniper, and also dynamite. Great unit.

Vehicles

Sensor Drone
Cost: $600
Requires: War Factory
Cloaked, can detect stealth, and armed with a small machine gun.

Navy

Tesla Ship
Cost: $1200
Requires: Naval Yard
Armed with a Tesla Cannon, good versus both armor and infantry.

Aircraft

MiG
Cost: $1200
Requires: Radar Tower
Armed with 2 missiles, it is the Harreir fro the Soviets.

Buildings

Advanced Tesla Coil
Cost: $2000
Requires: Construction Yard, Battle Lab
Deals twice the damage as a normal Tesla Coil, and also has a bigger range.

Oil Pump
Cost: $1000
Requires: Construction Yard, Battle Lab
Generates $250 per 2 seconds.

Somethign like that, then I point out in the unit list (not the discription) if the unit is done or not. For example, green would be done, while oraneg would eman you still need a SHP / Voxel for it. Get it? No I am nto suggesing to do this units, but they where he first that came to my mind. Probaly because nearly every mod uses it. And yes I must agree, personally I think you are asking it nicely. :p

Edited by need my speed, 11 July 2007 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:07 PM

no one can do coding for you, only look at possible problems.

Coding is like the most basic skill.
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#8 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:12 PM

Lol sparkkie. ^_^

Coin purse
Nut sack
The bit of flesh between your belly button and your gooche
Your damp tea bags
The sagging satchel
Your personal ravioli
Love blurbs
Personal cannon ammo

What the hell is that. :xcahik_:

Now let's see...They are all right. If you have 5000 ideas and tell them all to your team, then they go to create it...5000 creations later you only want 10 of those 5000...I guess your mod team won't be to happy with that. I always set my mod up in word, like this.

SOVIETS

-Radar Tower is now able to build aircraft

Infantry
-Spetznas

Vehicles
-Sensor Drone

Navy
-Tesla Ship

Aircraft
-MiG

Buildings
-Advanced Tesla Coil
-Oil Pump

Infantry

Spetznas
Cost: $1200
Requires: Barracks, Battle Lab
Armed with a machien gun and a sniper, and also dynamite. Great unit.

Vehicles

Sensor Drone
Cost: $600
Requires: War Factory
Cloaked, can detect stealth, and armed with a small machine gun.

Navy

Tesla Ship
Cost: $1200
Requires: Naval Yard
Armed with a Tesla Cannon, good versus both armor and infantry.

Aircraft

MiG
Cost: $1200
Requires: Radar Tower
Armed with 2 missiles, it is the Harreir fro the Soviets.

Buildings

Advanced Tesla Coil
Cost: $2000
Requires: Construction Yard, Battle Lab
Deals twice the damage as a normal Tesla Coil, and also has a bigger range.

Oil Pump
Cost: $1000
Requires: Construction Yard, Battle Lab
Generates $250 per 2 seconds.

Somethign like that, then I point out in the unit list (not the discription) if the unit is done or not. For example, green would be done, while oraneg would eman you still need a SHP / Voxel for it. Get it? No I am nto suggesing to do this units, but they where he first that came to my mind. Probaly because nearly every mod uses it. And yes I must agree, personally I think you are asking it nicely. :p



See now this is the kind of help i was looking for, advice things like that not critism like those assholes were giving me so thank you, need my speed. I'll prolly post something similar in bit.

#9 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:29 PM

DTA-Canadians,Italians,Polish-This is new side, still in work.

Canada-I was thinking of having more defensive such as more base defenses.
Italians-Should have special weapons such as kinetic,psykick,and radiation, etc.
Poland-I was thinking of having them more offensive, more tnak infantry etc.

Allied
Americans-Was ganna add Delta force operator and mabey some other things that are mabey similar.
Korea-More jets,planes,helis, etc. mabey even another airpad for themselves.
Britian-make a better sniper, give sniper tower, mabey something like a sniper tank.
France-Prolly give them a grand cannon tank and mabey a newer/better defensive cannon.
Germans-Having like more anti-armor tanks and some anti armor defenses.

Soviets
Russia-Adding more Tesla defenses,Tanks, etc.
Libya-New demo truck and mabey like an explosive terrorist dog. Mabey a bio trooper.
Iraq-Desalator tank or something of the sort.
Cuba-Mabey something like cuban spy or something(I don't have many ideas for this country )

Yuri
Might split him up into different groups(but then again mabey not since just about everyone else does it)

New psykick tower, add more normal tanks so he can accually not have to realy on psykick crap.
Gatling boat, psykick boat,new flying disk, Alien trooper,, things like that

Add some things like sas or spetnaz to soviets, and some other basic yet we could use units such as medic repair boats and tanks.

Also i was wondering if it's possible to have a fighter(like air-to-air combat???)




*some of these I have cameos and voxels for some i don't

** also i havn't even mentioned much about the buildings but I/we could add things like oil derricks and might look into making building upgrades.

***Is this good enough for you guys?!?!?!?

#10 Mig Eater

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 08:37 PM

I think I’ll save you time & just tell you that you have a very, very slim chance of getting anyone to help you, especially after that little display you put on. I would recommend you go back to basics & spend some time learning how to mod before you even think about starting a mod team.


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#11 yOmAmA

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 08:48 PM

I think I’ll save you time & just tell you that you have a very, very slim chance of getting anyone to help you, especially after that little display you put on. I would recommend you go back to basics & spend some time learning how to mod before you even think about starting a mod team.


I know how to mod(i can do just about everything i stated myself, except i have a small problem with the new side. I just think with some help I'd be able to do it faster and generate even more/better ideas.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:16 AM

Making that units and sides I can do in a hour or maybe two (and yes, I download the SHP's etc then), so 'faster coding' is not really needed. I think you should do all the coding by yourself, and ofcourse you may ask some questions, but not 'I want a new country with 10 sides, now make them'. I mean, if you have a modding team consisting of 2 coders (coding is he only thing you can you say, well, with those 2 coders there would maybe 1 unit left for you to make), 2 SHP / Voxel creators, and 1 that's creating loadscreens, a mod launcher, new sound, etc. This way it's more their mod then yours. I suggest to do the coding by yourself, and try to make a few SHP's / Voxels. I just can't create voxels so I downlaod these. I can make however SHP's, so I make these and download some. Also that lsit of you is very unorginal.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 01:08 PM

wow Sparrkie, that was so lol, nice job and yomama, you might see success if you become more like needmyspeed (try more on your own) and stop asking stupid questions which give feeling you do not try do anything on your own and that is not appreciated here

if got problems, you have to go deeper on them than just say zomg i can't do any of this, plz someone become my saviour (and do everything for me as well spood feed in process) and may god be blessed!!! :p
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 01:35 PM

you might see success if you become more like needmyspeed (try more on your own)


I take that as an compliment, so thank you! But it is need my speed. Oh well, atleast you didn't say Need My Speed or Need my speed, as most people say. :p
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#15 yOmAmA

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:46 PM

stop asking stupid questions which give feeling you do not try do anything on your own and that is not appreciated here


1.What stupid questions?(yea,yea i know you'll prolly consider this a stupid question....)
2.I DO try things on my own, once I've had enough trying to find it out and can't I ask on the forum and then keep trying!!

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:30 PM

To be specific and like try it ingame or to actually have a idea or what you did wrong, instead of everyone please help me when you have no work or mod to show.

examples include posting massive pieces of code with ; westwood comments attached, which make you seem completely clueless on the subject.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:41 PM

Wait, you won't split Yuri because everybody else does it, yet you add:

Desolator Tank
Telsa Boat
Gattling Boat
Grand Cannon Tank
Sniper Tank (WTF? Sniper IFV isn't enough?)

Also, Notepad is better than word. In word you try too much to get all the headings right. It's better to just indent whenever you need a description.

We all are criticizing you, except some say tell you to use more time (Which you don't like) while others tell you what to do to save time (Which you like)
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:55 AM

Good ideas take time. Listen to the Migster, he's been working on DDay for longer than I've had RA2, and I don't think anyone here can reasonably say its not going to be awesome :grin:
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  • Ideas stem outwards - when I do make a plan, I like to use a tree structure. Ideas go outwards, they don't just appear, thus if you want help with ideas you need something to begin with.
  • Objectives - have them, state them, think them, and maintain them. Its also difficult to have ideas when you do not know what you are ultimately want to acheive. By this I mean, rather than randomly adding stuff, plan out how you want your mod to look, feel, and play.
  • If you're trying to get help, don't crack it at people offering advice. Be reasonable, and acknowledge when others are being reasonable. "Harsh, but fair" springs to mind.
  • Have something to show. I don't ever tell anyone what I'm working on if I cannot show them something, unless the ideas speak for themselves. In this case, you probably want people to see that you are capable of modding, and thinking, a screenshot of a good idea would go a long way.
  • Don't plan above your abilities. If, when all is said and done, you have your awesome plan, you've started and shown work, you have everything meticuously planned out, you're still not neccessarily going to have people queueing up to help, so work on what you can do rather than relying on what you can't.

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#19 yOmAmA

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:31 AM

I was listening to mig just not allied general,sparkie, and omega.
Allied is anoying.
sparkie and omega are assholes.

and also D-Day does look good I'm disapointed though because,
1.it's not out yet.
2.I have shitty internet, so when it comes out it'll prolly be like 50mb+ and it'll take me like3 or more hours to download -.-'.

(they don't have dsl in my area and i can't afford cable.)

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Also, I've started (kinda) a new mod since the whole DTA thing wasn't working for me I'm just making canada,italy, and poland allied. Also i'll have to think of some good countries to add for soviets and I might add some yuri countries.

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Also, another question, is there a tag to make a superweapon show up when superweapons are turned off???

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And yet, Another question, I've looked and looked and looked and yet I can't seem to find where the cameo's are kept in the generals directory, I was ganna use a couple cameos from there but i can't seem to find where there kept, anyone know???

Edited by yOmAmA, 13 July 2007 - 03:38 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2007 - 07:13 AM

Sorry but your attituded really is starting to piss me off, how the heck do you expect people to come forward and help you with your mod with a piss poor attitude like that. :mad2:

Those "assholes" are alot more respected around this community then the likes of you, If you don't like critisism then bugger off and find another forum :grin: Simple as.
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