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[mysuitisnotblack]

I dont know, that would make it more realistic, but its cooler when this flash comes out of his staff and suddenly a ton of enemies are dead.

[ttandchotmail]

G'day to all

I was playing around the other day with rohan and it's heroes and I thought it was a little strange that theoden's glorious charge does not work on eomer and eowyn. I'm not sure if I understand the power correctly but I assume it temporarily gives the units an instant trample to any enemy infantry they come in contact with as well as a temporary armor bonus ( I might be wrong on that ). I just thought it might be worth extending theoden's power to include the rohan heroes on horseback as well. Possibly all units and allies units on horseback as well if it dosn't already.

just a thought

Edited by ttandchotmail, 09 January 2008 - 08:00 AM.

[Grubbo]

Would like to request to remove the flaming boulder upgrade for trebuchets. This just seems unrealistic, as trebs don't toss flaming incendiary projectiles, they just toss chunks of masonry, as was seen in the movies. Flaming projectiles should be something kept exclusive to Mordor.

[Sûlherokhh]

True, there is something to be said about that.

Before that happens, we will have to address the FireArrow issue though. No way in hell can fire arrows work the way they do now (much like the unlimitied axes of dwarves) nor would everyone even use fire arrows. What i could think of would be stuff like AP-rounds (specially designed arrow heads), BowTech (like Longbows or CompositeBows). Fire arrows should be an option for a special power, not regular ammunition.

Anyways, it will be addressed, sooner or later.

[myster]

Not really sure if i agree with you on fire arrows should be a special power...

imo it would unbalance things too much :/ not really sure tho...

[Downfall]

Don't see how it would imbalance that much...You'd have to think of it as like Gimli's Axe Throw or the Haradrim's Barbed Arrow (with a longer recharge time ) Special Power.

Hell, it could work just like the Barbed Arrow Power. You'd have to purchase it as an upgrade first. Then, you'd have to purchase it as an upgrade on the Ranger/Gondor Archer for them to use it.

As for AP Upgrades: It'd be like them using bodkin point arrows (for example) and upgrading to broadhead arrows.

[myster]

I have thought about this idea and the more i think about it, the more i like it

maybe make it like this:

for every faction, the normal arrowtips are just plain iron...

then for each different faction, you will get a special arrowtip AND a extra form of enhancing the arrow(fire, magic, forged steel)

MotW
Special arrowtip : Numenor Iron??
Enhanced arrow: Fire

Elves
Special arrowtip: Silver/Gold
Enhanced arrow: magic

Dwarves:
Special arrowtip/axeblade: Mithril
Enhanced arrow/axe: Upgraded with several diamonds and stuff?

Mordor:
Special arrowtip: rusted tip
Enhanced arrow: Fire

Moria:
Special Arrowtip: Poisoned tip
Enhanced arrow: Fire

Isengard
Special Arrowtips: none, they already have crossbows?
Enhanced arrow: Fire

dunno, how you guys feel about this?

[Sûlherokhh]

Better than all fire arrows at least. We'll see. Thanks.

[pf7612]

Now I know that you guys want to keep this to the movies and all...which is still cool...but I think that the Southern Fiefdoms of gondor should be included a little more. Especially the Knights of Dol Amroth, who were probably gondor's most elite fighting force. I suggest putting in Imrahil as a normal hero, making the KoDA as inn units (cav and infantry or one battalion mounting, if possible) and including the rest of the fiefdoms such a lossarnach, morthond, pelargir, blackroot vale, lebennin etc. in a power or summon. This is just my opinion of course the final decision is up to you, Sorry if I came across as bossy or demanding.

[Grubbo]

Now I know that you guys want to keep this to the movies and all...which is still cool...but I think that the Southern Fiefdoms of gondor should be included a little more. Especially the Knights of Dol Amroth, who were probably gondor's most elite fighting force. I suggest putting in Imrahil as a normal hero, making the KoDA as inn units (cav and infantry or one battalion mounting, if possible) and including the rest of the fiefdoms such a lossarnach, morthond, pelargir, blackroot vale, lebennin etc. in a power or summon. This is just my opinion of course the final decision is up to you, Sorry if I came across as bossy or demanding.

Totally for KoDA and Prince Imrahil. Although not in the movies, they figured prominently in the books. Including the other fiefdoms may oversaturate MOTW with units almost identical in function and form, if not name and appearance.

[Sûlherokhh]

You do know that the 'Summon Rohirrim'-Spell will be replaced by the Knights, don't you?

[pf7612]

You do know that the 'Summon Rohirrim'-Spell will be replaced by the Knights, don't you?

That's a start...but I was hoping that the knights would be permanant Elite super-cavalry, and Imrahil as a Hero. Then the other fiefdoms as the summon. Should be able to dismount horses too. MotW should be a mega-cavalry faction in the game anyway, since dwarves control the infantry, elves with their archery, and so on. Once again, its just my opinion.

[njm1983]

perhaps we could work some kind of compromise, maybe make them a permanent unit for the Dol amroth map im working on.

I had an interesting thought about peasants, IN TT we clearly see young boys being conscripted to defend helms deep, maybe you could add reskinned hobbit sherrifs to the peasant battalion. or possibly remove all the women and replace with them.

[DragonLord]

I think the Rohan mini-faction should have some kind of siege-unit. I like having a full Rohan army with some battles, but when it comes to attacking a base, they fail completely.

[njm1983]

actually I suggested somewhere in this thread that rohan should have a battering ram carried by men on horseback.

[DragonLord]

actually I suggested somewhere in this thread that rohan should have a battering ram carried by men on horseback.

Also I think the idea from RJ-ROTWK of having axemen Rohirrim that does good damage to structures would also be nice.

[pf7612]

actually I suggested somewhere in this thread that rohan should have a battering ram carried by men on horseback.

Good Idea, but its kinda hard to swing a battering ram from horseback don't you think?

[njm1983]

Ive never swung a battering ram from horseback The Idea actually cam from the movie Willow.

[Grubbo]

Ive never swung a battering ram from horseback The Idea actually cam from the movie Willow.

Long time ago, on the official EA forums, I suggested an upgrade for Rohirrim that turned a normal Rohan cav unit into a type of siege unit. One would research an upgrade giving the battalion ropes with grappling hooks that each rider would toss out to a building and hook into. Then, in a fashion similar to "drawing and quartering", the battalion would literally pull the structure apart with these ropes. Having this upgrade does nothing to their normal abilities as a cav unit when NOT engaged in pulling down a structure (meaning they do not cease to have melee and trample abilities). However, this type of siege would be considerably weaker than your typical catapult or battering ram in terms of damage, AND while using this ability, the cav unit cannot fight off any kind of attack. The ability can be toggled off to revert the unit back to regular cav though.

[Uruk-Hai Berserker]

In general all factions need soldiers to be created faster!