So, how do you tell this the AI?
Gondor (MotW) faction
Started by Rindy, Jul 14 2007 02:21 AM
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 04:17 PM
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 04:33 PM
So, how do you tell this the AI?
Not a clue...
But...the current system of having to build a $4000 structure to have access to the weakest infantry in the game doesn't really work either. Same for the Archery Ranges...why invest in a Rohan one to give me access to Yeomen when I build a Gondor one for nearly the same cost?
I think the best way to make the Peasants and Yeomen is my earlier suggestion to make them buildable from Farms and receive Leadership style buffs from them. An alternative would be to make Gondor Soldiers and Archers as Tier 2 units; another would be to have Peasants and Yeoman have considerably shorter buildtime than their Gondor equivalents and also significantly lower pop. count.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 04:45 PM
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another would be to have Peasants and Yeoman have considerably shorter buildtime than their Gondor equivalents and also significantly lower pop. count.
Which they have, both low buildtime as well as low pop count.
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 02:52 AM
Hero Idea:
lol. i couldnt resist
lol. i couldnt resist
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 03:08 AM
The only thing I can say about that picture:
Brilliant!! Hahaha
Brilliant!! Hahaha
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 10:04 AM
That is awesome 
Dont get between a Hobbit and his Hunter, guess where the arrow is gonna hit?
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 11:47 AM
Haha. 
Slightly offtopic as well ...
Slightly offtopic as well ...
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 01:04 PM
Actually it would be considered 
, but I'll let it pass as funny... 
, but I'll let it pass as funny...
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:02 AM
for MOTW first thing I want to see Gandalf mount on Gwaihir 
like in the film.. Aragorn mount on Brego like in the film.. Aragorn switch weapon or use bow for a short time like in moria 
and most I want rohan and gondor MUST be different sides
like in the film.. Aragorn mount on Brego like in the film.. Aragorn switch weapon or use bow for a short time like in moria and most I want rohan and gondor MUST be different sides
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:43 AM
well motw has so many mounted heroes already..... that means getting rid of one of ara's powers, which i think are too good to be removed for a mount. same with toggle, and i believe it was decided a while ago that it will stay men of the west.
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 06:52 PM
I like the idea of a "peasants lair"
And what about having gimli Legolas and the 4 hobbits in a spell??
And what about having gimli Legolas and the 4 hobbits in a spell??
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 04:32 AM
wow that new treb looks awesome! I had some thoughts the other day regarding aragorn: mostly regarding his powers but i thought id share my idea. So I was thinking it would be nice to have him change outfits as he levels up but also change powers aswell, Thinking that some would be removed as he goes up and new ones take their place. I have no idea if its possible but Ill give my tree:
Level 1-3 strider outfit
athelas - lvl 1
sword/bow toggle lvl 2
blademaster lvl 3
level 4-6 helms deep outfit
sword/bow toggle replaced with mount lvl 4
leadership lvl 5
Elendil - not sure about this cause he says it in fotr, thinking in first 3 lvls
level 7-10 black gate outfit
athelas
mount
blademaster
leadership
elendil
army of the dead
I hope that this makes sense,
the other idea I had was to replace the army of the dead spellbook power with "return of the king"
have aragorn change into his black gate outfit get a damage bonus from anduril and a debuff to units kinda like the battle at the black gate when they make a final stand and he rallys them, before the ring is destroyed.
His powers would then look like this:
lvl 1-5 strider outfit
lvl 1 athelas
lvl 2 wep toggle
lvl 3 blademaster
lvl 6-10 helms deep outfit
lvl 6 mount replaces wep toggle
lvl 8 elendil
lvl 10 army of the dead
25 point spell book power Return of the king changes him to black gate outfit and gives him leadership and damage bonus with other debuffs
Sorry for the long post didnt realise how bad it was until I typed it up.
Level 1-3 strider outfit
athelas - lvl 1
sword/bow toggle lvl 2
blademaster lvl 3
level 4-6 helms deep outfit
sword/bow toggle replaced with mount lvl 4
leadership lvl 5
Elendil - not sure about this cause he says it in fotr, thinking in first 3 lvls
level 7-10 black gate outfit
athelas
mount
blademaster
leadership
elendil
army of the dead
I hope that this makes sense,
the other idea I had was to replace the army of the dead spellbook power with "return of the king"
have aragorn change into his black gate outfit get a damage bonus from anduril and a debuff to units kinda like the battle at the black gate when they make a final stand and he rallys them, before the ring is destroyed.
His powers would then look like this:
lvl 1-5 strider outfit
lvl 1 athelas
lvl 2 wep toggle
lvl 3 blademaster
lvl 6-10 helms deep outfit
lvl 6 mount replaces wep toggle
lvl 8 elendil
lvl 10 army of the dead
25 point spell book power Return of the king changes him to black gate outfit and gives him leadership and damage bonus with other debuffs
Sorry for the long post didnt realise how bad it was until I typed it up.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 10:10 AM
Aaah, nice suggestions and not at all impossible... it's just that we're running out of time for Beta 4.5. But it's noted and we will consider it/some of it for Beta V. I can tell you though that he does change outfit in Beta 4.5 as well, when reaching lvl 10, and becoming the King =)
Thanks for having the mind to post in the right thread as well. Not many new ppl do that
Thanks for having the mind to post in the right thread as well. Not many new ppl do that
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 12:18 AM
Well thanks, its not that hard to find the appropriate place to post things, and im glad you like my idea. keep up the great work, since ive stumbled onto this mod Ive enjoyed playing it, watching the developement, and handing out the occasional suggestion. But you guys are the "real" miracle workers.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 12:26 AM
Thanks man... I hope you will like Beta 4.5, and I think you will... hehe
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 01:23 AM
Wow that's a great idea for Aragorn!!
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 08:03 AM
I'm not keen on Aragorn's army of the dead ability. Is more dangerous the Gandalf's word of power. I wiped out an entire army with Aragorn alone. I would rather see a mount ability to be honest, with Brego as mentioned above.
However I base this opinion on when I used Aragorn in BFME1, I haven't used him very much in this mod so I don't know how effective his AotD ability is.
However I base this opinion on when I used Aragorn in BFME1, I haven't used him very much in this mod so I don't know how effective his AotD ability is.
Edited by Medicleous, 27 September 2007 - 10:40 AM.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 10:38 AM
To some extent I agree... it's a devastating power, even if it's not as huge as the spell book one... But I understand what you mean. We'll consider it.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:41 PM
I too would rather see a brego mount
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