Edited by Starmie, 15 July 2007 - 02:26 PM.
Anarchism
#1
Posted 15 July 2007 - 02:25 PM
#2
Posted 16 July 2007 - 01:42 PM
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#3
Posted 16 July 2007 - 03:42 PM
#4
Posted 19 July 2007 - 06:18 PM
The fact is that there needs to be some authority, in some form or another. But contrary to common knowledge, that authority doesn't need to stand aside or above the people it applies to. Authority can also come from within the society itself, and in that case there doesn't need to be a single ruler or even a ruling class. The people basically rule themselves because any unruly behaviour is dealt with within the community itself. All people have equal authority and dissidence is taken care of from the remainder of the population.
#7
Posted 20 July 2007 - 04:30 PM
BTW OmegaBolt, it's not chavs who kill people, it's almost always young black or Asian men causing the knife culture. Call me racist, it's the truth.
#8
Posted 20 July 2007 - 04:53 PM
Edited by Starmie, 20 July 2007 - 04:59 PM.
#9
Posted 20 July 2007 - 07:01 PM
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“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
"In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine." -Erwin Rommel
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
#10
Posted 21 July 2007 - 02:55 PM
Bring back hangings and add being a chav to the list of hangable offences.
Hmmm - guess what that's called? Nazism. Sure chavs have never been a positive addition to society, but the same could be said for many people, including petty criminals and people who exceed the speed limit on the roads. Also, you can't always know who's a chav - just because they have a Burberry cap doesn't always make someone a chav. Going to execute everyone who steps a millimetre out of line? Good luck with that - I'll call the men in white coats.
What's the difference between all these forms of anarchism? I've heard of "libertarianism" but I didn't know it had anything to do with anarchism.
Edited by Starmie, 21 July 2007 - 03:05 PM.
#11
Posted 21 July 2007 - 05:04 PM
Libertarianism is a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty.
That's a quote from Wikipedia, I think they pretty accurately describe the philosophy. In the purest sense of the philosophy, it is very much like Anarchy where the only law that exists is Liberty - binding together the society.
#12
Posted 21 July 2007 - 06:44 PM
#14
Posted 21 July 2007 - 08:31 PM
to have freedom for the people, you need control over the corporations. we might have too many laws for humans these days and too few for corporations. a corporation version of the UN would have been nice.
"I give you private information on corporations for free and I'm a villain. Mark Zuckerberg gives your private information to corporations for money and he's 'Man of the Year.'" - Assange
#16
Posted 22 July 2007 - 11:47 PM
As for anarchism, the removal of a general group or groups of administrative authority could, in theory, be achieved over time. However you'll get the likes of Hostile coming along and saying that the police would somehow cease to function, and so would laws. That could hardly be the case as nobody said anything about the abolition of all law (although hardline anarchists would look to that as the ultimate goal - yes, that would lead to 'anarchy', but probably its more commonly accepted alternative definition of absolute chaos and bedlam IMO).
Anarchism can best be defined then as the ultimate state of decentralisation with no authority figures, roles or positions.
While I am a left-winger I consider this to be too extreme - while I don't believe there need be a governing body save for nationwide referendum (true democracy) I do believe that some maintenance of law, order and border defence would need to be retained.
The only way this dissolution of a governing body could be achieved is if control over that governing body were to be passed to individuals who were willing to shun the power being in control of that body. That, and the people's mindset altered from that of the capitalist 'out-for-number-one' attitude to one of 'work-for-the-good-of-all-to-benefit-yourself'. And also, some means to rein in the police and some law executive committee. However that would constitute, in the loosest sense, a form of government, although the law would be confined solely to what is and is not a criminal offence, and the punishments that would entail from said offence.
A little paradoxical, but with someone to work out the kinks it is theoretically possible. It would require generations of work, dedication and people humble enough to disperse their power.
Oh, and to not get usurped by those who are not of such humility.
#17
Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:52 PM
AFAIK, anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism basically mean that huge corporations own the population.
Er no.
Quotes
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
"In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine." -Erwin Rommel
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
#18
Posted 26 July 2007 - 10:12 AM
#19
Posted 26 July 2007 - 04:53 PM
Quotes
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
"In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine." -Erwin Rommel
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
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