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#1 LordIstari

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:05 PM

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 08:24 PM

new building for mordor (this building healing units) - Blood Fountain
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 08:30 PM

thats good and creepy
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 02:21 AM

yes id have to agree
creepy
but original and very good :rolleyes:
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 03:14 AM

That's really great looking (in a gross kind way, but still)

I think it'd look a little better if the skulls in the fountain itself weren't moving in circles. Maybe if it just appeared as if they were slowly rising up and down in the blood...

Not sure if it should be a healing structure, though. In the interests of faction diversity, I think its best for the evil factions to focus on things like damage, fear, and debuffing enemy forces while the Good ones have the healing and defense powers & buildings.

I like it, but I think it could serve a better purpose than a healing structure.

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 05:26 AM

i think dzhon is right .... i do believe however that if cahs are done in this mod taht a healing ability should be made for evil side

but like dzhon said there shouldnt be a healing abilty ... on the otherhand you could make it like the statue but give a fear ability

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 11:11 AM

That's... creepy... In a cool way!
It has been reported that some victims of rape, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not WAKE UP. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren't being raped. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 02:03 PM

Why not give fear and healing boosts. i mean it sucks for the evil factions because they get their units that they want to keep to a high level and then they die because of health issues.

orcs also like blood so that's why its used for healing

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 11:56 PM

Some of those Sorceror powers that turn enemies into Wraiths heal nearby units.

It's not a huge deal either way, but the idea of Orcs tending to their wounded sounds a little strange. The only units Mordor needed to keep alive were Mumaks, Trolls, and their Rhun and Harad allies (all of which now auto heal at level 2 or woundn't drink blood.

Orcs are more or less designed to be cheap (even free) and dispensible. The build in large hordes, so regeneration can keep them going. I suppose they could even heal if kept out of combat for a time like the Elves do (my general impression is that wounded Orcs would either be patched up quickly using primitive techniques or just left for dead.

As I said, though, great structure...I'd just have it debuff enemy units or something like that. Fountains and Heroic Statues are a Forces of Light thing imo...just like the "Bloodthirsty" ability and Fear structures are Forces of Darkness.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 05:47 AM

Dzhon:ok i like this idea
ps: you true, orc have BIG hordes (Orc fighter - 50 orcs ,damage - 3 health 25,cost - FREE. ORc Archers - 50 orcs ,Damage - 4,health 20,cost - 150)

i have 1 idea -maybe creat "Slave Master" unit (Like WOTR game) example: you have 1 slave master - you can build 2 hordes of orc fighter and 1 hordes of orc archer?(maximum population for "Slave Master" - 5)
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 05:50 AM

oh yes those
but they increased the pop limit
and the such
maybe you could implement them similar to the thrall master?
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 10:31 AM

Or a slave master would give a small buff to the orcs... Make them more 'controllable'. In the prologue of FotR you just see thousands of orcs swarming to the Elves and Men, that's what they should be like without slave master. With a slave master, they would be more disciplined, like Minas Tirith orcs.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 01:29 PM

1)he not increase pop limit,but with him orcs availble to BUILD (maybe add some leadearship spells to him)
2)maybe add some sorts of "Leaders" for any factions? Example Gondor:Guard of Dol amroth (very powerfull unti with heavy armor and can switch bow/sword) Elves: healing elfs? (maybe elf wizards or etc?) Mordor: Slave master$) Izengard: Uruk leader (like helms deep in movie), and etc
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 06:13 PM

yea that would be a good idea :good: and the elves
do you remember the Elven Lightbearers from WotR cause they would be a good unit to use if your looking for a mini hero for elves
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 07:54 PM

hey maybe add anythink like this?
Siege Shield - defend units of mordor
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Edited by LordIstari, 21 August 2007 - 08:20 PM.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:39 PM

whoa, that is awesome, i want to have one of those in real life now
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:30 AM

Ah that's a nice thingie! I wonder how it'll work - a defensive boost like the leadership or something like that?
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 12:09 PM

Maybe they could do a garrsion type behind it
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#19 LordIstari

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:09 PM

hey new update for mordor - 2 models of buildings
1)dol guldur barack (train castelans and heavy armored orcs pikeman and in this building you can purchuase HA and FB upgraid)
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2)Mordor Barack (in this units you can train orcs elit)
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:53 PM

Those buildings look totally awesome :good:
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