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#521 Yarrum

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Posted 24 April 2008 - 02:46 PM

Ah, good o'l indestructible Grond. Because of it, I cant beat Minas Tirith. (I did it before, but that file got overwritten. :) ) Anyways, Though you said that an edited campaign would come later, will there be any changes to hero continuation for the heroes that died at certain battles, like Boromir or Haldir. It kind of annoys me that even if Boromir dies at Amon Hen, he still continues to advance. Perhaps you could make it so that Boromir, Haldir, and Gandalf only continue the campaign if you fulfill a bonus objective that says to keep them alive.

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#522 Uruk King

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Posted 24 April 2008 - 05:07 PM

You mean the possiblity of Gandalf dying? Um no man. He survives his encounter with the Balrog anyway. Besides the good campaign would sure be sad without Gandalf.
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 09:10 PM

still, IMO Gandalf could quite fairly be taken out after Moria, and out back in at Helm'd Deep (or possibly before, but he didn't really fight before that)..

Boromir is just an awesome hero and, IMO, should be kept alive all the time... but, as a bonus objective could also look nice... would suck if you wouldn't manage to get it done though.. :)

Haldri wasn't in Helm's Deep at all, in bookality, while in filmality he was... He doesn't die, bookality, but in the filmality he does...
So, IMO he should stay alive... maybe if you keep him alive, as a bonus thingie :p

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Posted 24 April 2008 - 09:18 PM

See that's what always bugged me about the campaign, if Gandalf had survived Moria they probably wouldn't have gone all the way to Amon Hen, Aragorn and Boromir would go to Minas Tirith, and ALL the others would go with Frodo like they planned. That would have really screwed everything up though.... :)
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 04:13 AM

Back to the Grond thingy, personally I don't see a reason for an indestructible one. I mean, there was always a chance that the men of Minas Tirith could've destroyed the ram (even though they didn't), just like there was a big chance that Sauron could've destroyed Middle-earth (even though he didn't, and that's where the Evil campaign comes into play). If anything, Grond's health could be boosted a little, just to make it more challenging.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 05:48 AM

I'd say leave it alone, My Minas Tirith Army really wasn't in shape for an onslaught of orcs, with only two soldier and two tower guard batallions. I always managed to destroy Grond just when the gate was on it's last line of health
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 02:08 PM

aye, it always goes boom right before the last hit :p
'cept for the time I wanted 'em to come in...

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:09 PM

summon ents... I always did most of the campaign without powers (except heal of course!)... so you can raise up a storm when you need it... ents a Minas Tirith... :p ya talk about bookality...
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:38 PM

summon ents... I always did most of the campaign without powers (except heal of course!)... so you can raise up a storm when you need it... ents a Minas Tirith... :p ya talk about bookality...



Like the army of the dead, huh?

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 04:38 PM

thats "Eh" (Canadian) :p
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 08:41 PM

Not really. 'Huh' is used in a context of 'pardon' or in questioning, while 'eh' is generally used when you don't understand something (English). :p

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 09:05 PM

Don't assume you speak Canadian. It means anything here.

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 10:00 PM

Didn't know they were real words at all... :p

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 10:13 PM

off topic and a half... :) @Thorin: nah... we use Eh differently here in the great white north...
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 05:12 AM

I'm pretty sure I suggested this to Celeglin for TEA, but what about Warg Riders with bows? In the Wolves of Isengard scene in The Two Towers, you see a lot of bowmen amongst the Warg Rider ranks. Of course, it would take away the uniqueness of the Rohirrim Archers, but Rohan wasn't the only race to incorporate mounted bowmen into their forces (I think the Elves had something along the lines of this, though I can't remember). This might also affect balance, but you could take away the 'Howl' ability to compensate, as they're not really there to trample. Any thoughts?
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 09:53 AM

Maby just change one Warg Rider against a Warg Rider bowman thar can shoot-while-moving. Thar would not be to overpowering...

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 02:10 PM

From what I can recall, these are all of the mounted bowmen mentioned somewhere in LotR lore:
-Elven archers upon horses were used to throw back Glaurung upon his first appearance.
-"Bowmen upon horses" are mentioned among the ranks of the Easterlings (maybe Variags of Khand - debatable).
-Some Rohirrim are said to have been skilled with the bow, able to shoot from the back of a moving horse.
-And lastly, it's shown in the films that some Warg Riders of Isengard were able to wied a bow from Wargback.
So...yes. Those are all of the units that could viably use a "shoot while moving" feature, IIRC.
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Posted 26 April 2008 - 03:21 PM

The Numenoreans also employed native Middle-earth (those not of the island of Numenor) horse archers (whether they were Northmen, Easterling or others is undefined).
- Unfinished Tales, Part Three: The Third Age, The Disaster of the Gladden Fields, End of Note 8.

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 03:24 PM

Ah, that's right. Guess I forgot them :)
Though, it'd make sense for them to be Northmen - Gondor was firm allies with them later on in the Third Age.
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#540 Yarrum

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Posted 27 April 2008 - 07:57 PM

Hi everyone. Looking on the Rhovanion Alliance website, I noticed that Boromir has 8 special powers, but there are only 6 spots in the palantir. I also noticed that there are two sets of linked powers. How is this going to work? Thanks- Yarrum

Edited by yarrum, 27 April 2008 - 09:12 PM.

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