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[Lauri]

well, for the last one... Dol-Amroth MF has only DA Stuff

but, to quote some powers on the site...

Light the Beacons
Allows troop summoning from the Beacons

Built along the hilltops of the White Mountains, the Beacons of Gondor are lighted in times of war to summon aid from its many provinces and allies. Once set ablaze, these great pyres can be seen from as far away as Anfalas and Pinnath Gelin, and a massive call to arms within the entire kingdoms of Gondor and Rohan ensues. It is only a matter of when, not if, the Men of the Outlands will arrive.

and the buildings list:

Beacon of Gondor
Summons reinforcements

Great fire-places filled with woodpiles and oil and permanently manned by men of Gondor, the Warning beacons act as the kingdom’s alarm system in dire times. The most well-known of these: Amon Dîn, Eilenach, Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad and Halifirien were built in the Third Age to warn the Southern Fiefs of Gondor for a threat in the north provinces of Calenardhon and Anorien or conversely. In the case of the War of the Ring, the beacons are used by Gondor to summon aid from the southern provinces and at emergencies, the closely-allied kingdom of Rohan, further confirmed with the arrival of the Red Arrow.

Anyways, I could've just posted this...

Muster the Fiefdoms
Summons reinforcements from Southern Gondor

A truly vast kingdom stretching almost the entirety of the lands south of the Ered Nimrais to the Anduin, Gondor is the greatest of the free realms of Men west of Middle-earth. Asides Minas Tirith and Anorien, Gondor comprises of a number of autonomous fiefdoms paying allegiance to the Lord of the White Tower. These are Lossarnach, Lebennin, Lamedon, Belfalas and Anfalas. Separate realms also existed within the Fiefs including the Morthond Vale, Pinnath Gelin, Pelargir and Dol Amroth. With the lighting of the Beacons, the southern provinces of Gondor will send companies of soldiers to support the defenses of Minas Tirith against the enemy forces. While all warriors of the Fiefdoms rally under the banner of Gondor, each Fief’s military is distinctive, possessing its own traits, specialties and appearance. Renowned for their heroism and loyalty among the Fiefs are the soldiery of the Blackroot Vale and Arnach, Morthond and Lossarnach.

hope that answers your question...

@glorf:
1) Well, whatever that means.... I'm sure Ents will be weak against Fire arrows
2) GotST.... well, from the descriptions on the site, I do belive that they won't be purchaceable from anything else than Celeborn... but that's what I think, I don't know for sure

[Anendor]

so basically you recruit those units from the beacons, right?

and they're permanent?
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also, do you want a Wikipedia page for this mod? because i would like to help in any way possible and it would be nice if I could do even that little bit for the mod

[Lauri]

1) You can, I think... And you can summon them with the power I posted

2) Of course... if not they would be very waste of cash (although, the summoned ones with the power is probably not permanent )

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3) If we wanted, I do belive it'd be better if someone on the team would do it, as we have more knowledge Or, whatever... you know what I mean We are the team
And supporting the mod and following it and keeping these forums alive is enough doing for the mod for us, or atleast me It's very nice when people like your work you know

Edited by Lauri, 30 August 2007 - 08:06 PM.

[Anendor]

would there be any other job that would allow me to actually get onto the team?

[m@tt]

Skinning, Modelling, Animating, Mapping, Audio etc. And you have to be good. But we don't need ideas people, coders or PR men.

See the jobs page on the RA site.

[Bard]

Nukumnehtar once did a quite detailed Wiki-page for RA some time ago that was planned to be expanded as the Mod went along. It was deleted by Wikipedia (or Nuku, it's gone anyway) a couple of days (or was it weeks?) later.

Edited by Bard, 31 August 2007 - 12:26 AM.

[Olorin]

I'm just curious, will the Erebor mine have the same tunnel function as in B4ME II?

[Canterbury]

I forgot how it worked. did u load units into the mine and u goto another mine and u click unload and the units will come outta it?

Edited by Canterbury, 03 September 2007 - 06:12 AM.

[MorgoththeMight]

yeah that's basicly what it did.

[Mathijs]

I'm just curious, will the Erebor mine have the same tunnel function as in B4ME II?

I'm not sure... I do know that tunnel logic isn't as advanced in BfME1 in comparison to BfME2... someone shed some light here?

[Herunor]

It isn't possible in bfme I, there are problems with keeping a horde. That means you will have single units when you evacuate the mine. Grim wrote it in his tutorial, i never tested it, so i am not 100% sure.

[Durin The Deathless]

I realize that some of this may not be possible, and even if it is it will most likely be a big pain in the rear; but reflecting upon the book, and medieval history, the Trebuchets would be more realistic if you had to pack and unpack them, such as in Age of Empires II; I'm just saying since you changed the skin to look more like a real treb, then it would make sense that something that large wouldn't be mobile one second, then move to kill something the other second; same thing applies to the Mordor Catapult, and Isengard's Balistae (If indeed you are going to keep EA's idea of using the balistae).
Also Fire Arrows is kind of a stupid upgrade, they are never mentioned in the book, and in history they're extremely rarely used, I'm not exactly sure what you would replace them with, maybe like barbed arrows, or steel arrowheads, or something; for taking down ents and buildings it could be like Rome: Total War, switch to fire arrows, but either decrease the accuracy of the arrows (if you can script that) or damage against normal units, because in putting on the flammable material and fire the arrow would be slower and less accurate (which is one reason why they were almost never used).

[m@tt]

A lot of stuff isn't mentioned in the books

The Gondor trebuchet do pack and unpack, just look at the renders and screenshots

The Mordor catapult is reloaded by the troll, and is on wheels so it doesn't need to pack/unpack.

[Durin The Deathless]

The Gondor trebuchet do pack and unpack, just look at the renders and screenshots

The Mordor catapult is reloaded by the troll, and is on wheels so it doesn't need to pack/unpack.

Terribly sorry please forgive my ignorance, I should have had a look before I spoke, I had not seen the model recently and the memory was foggy.

A lot of stuff isn't mentioned in the books

True, but it is also not mentioned often in history, if the book had mentioned them and history had not (or vis versa), I would not say anything. However since neither speaks of fire arrows being used (well at least not often), then common sense dictates that they should not be used. If you read Humphrey Carpenter's biography of Tolkien then you will discover that he felt not that he was inventing a story, but that it was being revealed to him slowly, as if it was part of this world's history; thus the weapons and tactics used would be similar.

[Núkumnëhtar]

Nukumnehtar once did a quite detailed Wiki-page for RA some time ago that was planned to be expanded as the Mod went along. It was deleted by Wikipedia (or Nuku, it's gone anyway) a couple of days (or was it weeks?) later.

I deleted it two months later...didn't feel like keeping it up and not too many people looked at it I think.

[Bard]

To Durin The Deathless (concerning fire arrows):

Well then, I think you'll be pleased to know that the Mod has already tackled this problem.

If I'm not mistaken (and please correct me if I am):
Fire arrows no longer function as they did in the original version of the game. Fire Arrows are now a toggle (and if any appear as "upgrades" it means archer units get to toggle to fire arrows after purchasing the "upgrade" instead of having their arrows lit all the time), and not every archer unit will have it. Also, when toggling to fire arrows, units will get a ranged damage increase against whatever is flammable (ents, buildings, siege weapons, etc) and a decrease against almost everything else. However, I'm not sure if units capable of toggling to fire arrows will have their accuracy reduced, so you'll want confirmation from someone else.

Edited by Bard, 11 September 2007 - 05:19 AM.

[Olorin]

So does this mean that fire arrows will have like a continuous damage streak on flammable objects? Say, for example, how ents burn up after being hit with flame; will that happen to catapults or buildings?

One more question before another idea comes along (and I think I already know the answer to this): will your own catapults hurt your own units if they get in the way? 'Cause I remember in some version or game your own units were impervious to your own siege engines, so I'm just making sure that this all makes sense realistically.

[Alsch]

It's great to hear that the fire arrow system is much more dynamic and realistic. It always pissed me off that a bunch of archers could tear through everything possible, most notably in the campaign.

[kennethain]

To Durin The Deathless (concerning fire arrows):

Well then, I think you'll be pleased to know that the Mod has already tackled this problem.

If I'm not mistaken (and please correct me if I am):
Fire arrows no longer function as they did in the original version of the game. Fire Arrows are now a toggle (and if any appear as "upgrades" it means archer units get to toggle to fire arrows after purchasing the "upgrade" instead of having their arrows lit all the time), and not every archer unit will have it. Also, when toggling to fire arrows, units will get a ranged damage increase against whatever is flammable (ents, buildings, siege weapons, etc) and a decrease against almost everything else. However, I'm not sure if units capable of toggling to fire arrows will have their accuracy reduced, so you'll want confirmation from someone else.

I'm assuming that units will continue to be hurt by their own flying projectiles (excluding arrows, although if that could be coded in, it would be amazing and truly recreate battlefield tactics) if they get in the way since that's how it was in the original BFME and is realistic (with Middle Earth reality being something the staff has kept in mind throughout).

[Dain Ironfoot]

not sure I'd define it as a toggle for the standard fire arrows... it simply means that after the upgrade units with them will use them against logical flammable targets only.