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[lotrfreak]

How do u add and remove items from a model, specificly weapons? and how do u get a model unbunched. cause mine is all bunched up and not like "put together".

[Bart]

How do u add and remove items from a model, specificly weapons?

learn how to model (loads of tutorials for that)

and how do u get a model unbunched. cause mine is all bunched up and not like "put together".

you must extract the skeleton too and put it in the same directory as the model when importing it

[GothmogtheOrc]

There was a tutorial written on exactly that... let me see if I can find it... ah, here it is, written by SDK Kwen:

EDIT: hmm, it didn't load correctly. I'll upload it to the site and put the link here when I'm done.

EDIT2: Ok, here's the link: Tutorial

-Gto

Edited by GothmogtheOrc, 29 July 2007 - 01:16 AM.

[lotrfreak]

but i dont know if i have the original skelaton. its a model from a mod and i want to tweak it a bit.

[GothmogtheOrc]

Unless that mod added a new skeleton and new full set of animations, you probably do have the skeleton. Most models use existing skl and animations (less work, and fewer people know how to animate).

Check the unit's code to see which Skl it uses.

-Gto

[lotrfreak]

ok thanks ill do that.

[lotrfreak]

wait where in the ini do i find its code??

[lotrfreak]

The model i am trying to tweak is the Eorling model from the Elven Allaince. I want to replace the spear with

a sword so i can have Rohan swordmen. then do the same thing but with a axe and a bow.

[Allathar]

lotrfreak, the edit button is your friend...

[GothmogtheOrc]

I hope this is for a private mod because in the TEA readme it says:

The following pieces of art MAY NOT BE USED in a separate, public modification under any circumstances: Saruman; Eowyn's mounted art; Rohirrim, Rohirrim Archer, Eorlingas, and Rohan shield textures; Frodo; Sam; Merry's normal and Knight of Rohan art; Pippin's normal outfit.

Just wanted to make sure you knew that after all, who really reads the readme's

In the code it'll be near the top, either below the Model = blah_skn it'll say Skl = blah_skl or in the actual animations themselves it'll say blah_skl.blah_animation.

In any event I'm pretty sure Cel's Eorlingas use the TowerGuard skl

-Gto

[lotrfreak]

ya it is for a privite mod cuz i read the readme . But when he gets internet acces back i am goin to see if he will let me use them anyway.

but if it shows up as a tower guard model, how will i be able to edit the Eorling??

[Pixel]

Here is the easiest way:
1.Open FinalBig Editor.
2.Locate W3D.big and Open it.
3.Extract all contents of W3D.Big to desktop.
4.Open the Art folder and go to W3d.
5.Place the Elven Alliance model inside the W3D Folder.
6.Now go in to renx, Open the W3D Importer, And locate the Art/W3D folder and then find the model.
7.Now as it can search all the models/skeletons etc, It will pick up the correct one automaticly.

[lotrfreak]

ill try that. thanks.


ok its there but its still all bunched up. how do u get it "put together"? cause then i can take out the spear and add the sword. (which i dont even know how to do yet. )!!!!!

Edited by lotrfreak, 29 July 2007 - 09:29 PM.

[Pixel]

You are doing something wrong then, Either the model uses a custom skeleton, or you are importing the model wrong..

Post a screenshot up for what you mean by "Bunched up" and possibly upload the model for those of us that dont have TEA downloaded and installed.

[lotrfreak]

no i mean its bunched up in Renx. is that normal??

[Pixel]

No it shouldnt happen unless you have not got the correct Skeleton in the exact same location as the .w3d model.

So recheck and make sure the model is in the art/w3d/ folder, Then make sure you are using the W3D Importer in renx correctly when you open the model.

[lotrfreak]

in the TEA .Big its all bunched up too. theres only one model (skn.W3D) so what do i do??

but thers a bunch of different skins.

[Pixel]

Like i have said a few times, Extract W3D.big, Have you done this? You will find it in the main Bfme Folder.

[Allathar]

1. Open up TEA .big file
2. In BIG editor, select edit > extract all > to whatever folder you'd like
3. Open up RenX
4. And open up the model you'd like to edit. If you did all the steps right, the skeleton should auto be in the same folder as the model you'll want to edit
5. Have fun modelling. There are plenty of tutorials out there that tell ye how to do it.

[Pixel]

Allathar, That will not work. Celeglin did not include the models Skeleton inside the TEA.big, That im aware of.
So like i have said in previous posts, He will also have to extract the original W3D.big, Then place the model from TEA inside the art/w3d folder that he extracted from the W3D.big.... This way the model will find the correct skeleton.