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#1 AcE11

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 11:09 PM

What will the ring heroes be in the game?
I've always thought it was stupid that Galadriel was the ringhero for menofthewest and dwarves
also sauron should be unique to mordor

My choices would be
a hero from the past;
Gondor Elendil/Isildur?.. can't really think of anyone
Rohan Eorl the Young
Dwarves Thorin
Elves GilGalad (legend)
Mordor Sauron
Isengard ?
Goblins Balrog
Angmar ?
Evil Men ?

On the other hand it would be really cool if when you obtained the one ring it would make one of your heroes really really powerful and give them a new brilliant power
Gondor Gandalf
Rohan ?
Dwarves Gimili( an insane Gimili would be cool)
Elves Galadriel/Elrond
Mordor Sauron
Isengard Saruman
Goblins Drogoth
Angmar Witch King
Evil Men ?

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Posted 14 September 2007 - 07:21 PM

1. dont make a new topic for every question.

2. ring heros will be worked on way later in the future.

3. when they are worked on, it will probly be sauron/sarumon/bolg/great goblin, and good will get frodo or a buff to one of their heros. frodo will be able to destroy an enemy fortress with the ring

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 10:44 AM

now don't turn him down like that
I'd love to see eorl the young ingame :p
the ring could just be a way of summoning the greatest hero of every faction (including dead ones), it could even be renamed 'legends mode'. getting the ring would enable you to use these supernatural heroes. in that case, gil-galad and the others would be fine. :crazed:
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 12:51 PM

wasnt intending to turn him down. its just, theres been a whole lot of discussion about this in other topics, so another topic seems kinda pointless :p rob has definatly decided to make it so only frodo and gollum can find the ring. im also pretty sure he wantes sauron/saruman etc, but, as always, his mind can be changed ;)

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 01:18 PM

Thats a shame if only Frodo & Gollum can find the ring, wouldn't ring wraiths equally be able to find it? Frodo shouldn't really be a ring hero, he doesn't have the power to wield it. I still think that making it so the ring unlocks certain abilities would be better...such as Gandalf IF he had the ring, glowing white constantly etc, being powerful. Galadriel IF she had the ring, Aragorn if HE had the ring summoning the king of the dead or something like that...just a thought

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 02:55 PM

no one on good has the power to wield it really :p thats why they sent it off to mordor. frodo isnt wieldy it, hes just carrying it. if he gets to an enemy fortress, he can go right next to it and destroy the ring, blowing it up.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:00 PM

Ahh right, sounds interesting. Is it possible to add a feature to drop the ring? So if another hero has it, Frodo can pick it up?

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:26 PM

only frodo and gollum can find it :p basically, it doesnt spawn until one of them walks across the area where it is. then it appears, and only they can pick it up, with possible exception of ringraiths maybe, idk

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:34 PM

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technically, anyone can find the ring
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:42 PM

I'd say only Frodo and Gollum can FIND the ring, but once they get it, they can be killed so they drop the ring. After that, anyone can pick it up and bring it to the fortress.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 08:01 PM

if the witch king got it :good:
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 03:55 PM

i have some idea for that
1-gondor summon king of the deads(with power to summon some dead)
2-arnor summon Isildur (only Isildur take the ring )
3-elves summon gladrim
4- Dwarves i don't know really but you can use this in bfmeII in evil chapter of fornost i see a machin make earth quake that's name is earth hummer you can use it with new skin and you can move this is not hearo but this may useful)
5-Rohan summon treebeard (remove form the ent moot with new power summon the ents 10000 hp )
6-mordor summon Sauron
7-isenguard Saruman become master wizard (new powers)but first Saruman must die to build a strong Saruman(like nazgul system) (evil wizard become his name)
8-goblins Drogoth (because Balrog already a power for mordor and goblins)
9-angmar call other 7 kings (black riders in rise of witch-king normally)other nazguls already turn in to shadow and they are come to server the witch-king)
10-mote i don't know but may you can use Sauron again because they already allied with Sauron and they are very loyal to Sauron than Saruman with Sauron .
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:05 PM

So why wouldn't the nazguls be able to pick it up?
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:16 PM

Delete one of those dojob, and that's just the way rob's making it. Mordor would be way overpowered with ring heroes otherwise.

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 02:50 AM

Hmm, well perhaps maybe if Mordor gets the ring, then nazguls are gone and u cant get any more, since their job's done...
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 04:58 AM

I am on the fence for this. But I am leaning more towards super-powering current heroes. Here's my ideas for some factions:

Gondor - Gandalf of Many Colours
Rohan - Radagast of Many Colours
Isengard - Saruman of Many Colours
Elves - Galadriel (gone wild)
Dwarves - I like the wild-Gimli idea
Mordor - Sauron... No one else really fits, to be honest.
MOTE - One of the Blue Wizards... of Many Colours (sense a pattern here?)

This is such a hard topic to discuss because we have so many factions that emphasize so many different strengths in this mod, that having one super-powered hero would just be "cookie-cutting" each faction. Or atleast for me, it seems like that. Maybe the Ring-Hero could be someone that really tightens the strength of a particular faction and tries to cover up some weaknesses to that faction, instead of having "One Big Juggernaut" on the field.

I also love the Gollum/Frodo idea, by the way.
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 10:55 PM

hey yoda, can you post the plan that we are currently thinking about. everyone here should know what the previous plan was, and i dont think its been posted outside of the beta forum. plus i know you can explain it better than me :p

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 01:04 PM

other my idea for use the ring:use that in fortress to gain access the master power (new level power in power tree must add after 2 last power.to access this power player most have ring in fortress an have 50 power point and one of the two master power.(no resource only power point)
1-isenguard: open the master power in power tree super flash light
2-mordor: access to summon the dark lord and all mordor enemy gain -20%armor
3-angmar: a large amount of enemy become wight(for medium time alive and heal all ally units
4-gondor: all of gondor units get 25%defense25%damage
5-elves: lady gladrim upgrade 20%damage to all of ally units
6-arnor: all of hero gain 30%-50% damage and 20%sight to all arnor's units
7-rohan: a large amount of enemy unit be come animal &all rohan units take 10%damage (
8-dwarves:gain access to build earth hummer in builder ability only 1 limit(a structure in bfme2 in evil level of fornost dwarves use this weapons) or all upgrade be come low for 75%
9-goblins all unit gain 30%armor&30%damage and heros
10-mote can access to build 6 blackserpent guards and 20%defense
this power is for ever until player lost the ring(with mordor if dark lord die ring will lost ) and charge power will take 50%time more than 2 last power.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 02:10 PM

That's not possible :good:

Also, please no "of many colours" heroes... please..
With exception of Saruman, as he was already 'of many colours' at the time ;)
If it is Gandalf, it would be Gandalf, only a hell of alot stronger one :p

No, no need to get rid of the ringwraiths if Mordor get's the ring... Their task wasn't to find the ring...
Of course, it was to find the ring, but they weren't made for that.. Their bond to the fate of the ring, and they are used in Sauron's armies aswell...

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 09:26 PM

Yea, they can't die, and they can kill (well), why would he get rid of them? They'd be deadly.

Anyone ever thought of Tom Bombadil? Maybe he could play some role in it? Wasn't he the only one in Middle-Earth the Ring had no effect on? I know he wouldn't use it (in the books), but maybe you could use him with it somehow, I mean it was said he would never leave the old forest, yet EA put him in, so it wouldn't really be that lore breaking would it? I would really like to see him as something more than a 10PP power, he always seems so mysterious and powerful whenever I read the Fellowship.

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