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#1 Hostile

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 01:28 AM

Well to start this article will be the launch article for the site. This tantamount article will be about the influence that has moved me into the positions that I have chosen in my life. I am one click to the right on most issues, but a click on the left on many as well.

I'll state with my position:

1) I believe English should be the official language of the US. No brainer, I'm tired of pressing one for english and "dos por espanol." I also believe the first step in streaming down the flow of illigal immigrants is to block them from coming in. This means a well protected southern border. This includes building a wall if necessary.

Than you begin to deal with how to deal with the existing illegals after that. Stop the flow first, than deal with the existing ones after that. Once this equilbrium is achieved than we can decide how to assimilate the existing illegals into our country. Assimilate, not deport for most cases.

2) I believe the geopilitical importance of staying in Iraq outweights the instability and unknown conditions that would occur if the US forces left Iraq. This is necessary for many reasons. If the Iraqi government collapses a wholesale slaughter would occur that would result in US forces returning to the region soon.

Our exit would also allow the formation of safe regions where terrorists camps will spring up who are too many and too powerful for Iraqi forces to combat alone.

3) I believe the US and it's allies should create a military "what if logistical plan" in the case of needed military action against Iran. This should be done so when we have a diplomatic discussion, we'll be taken serious. You cannot go to a discussion without a "big stick."

4) I believe socialism is a doctrine of thinking that states that it's the governments job to take care of everyone as opposed to the individual. This doctrine assumes that the individual is not intelligent enough to fend for themselves.

I believe the individual is smarter than one may think and that education is the key to raising people from poverty. Teach people how the capitalist system works from an early age, and you'll see an individual who commands thier own destiny. Education is the key. Not some fancy college degree, but simply learning how capitalism works in thier sector.

5) I think marijuana should be legalised. Not because I myself use it, but because it's not differant than alcohol or cigarettes. I've only used it twice in the last 5 years. I have no love for it. But it's no differant than abortion on one level. We cannot be hypocritical. If a woman can abort a fetus because it's her body, than the same rules should apply to things like marijuana, self-suicide by terminally sick people, or Rush Limbaugh by the US congress liberals creating a censure of him. (joke, either listen to him or choose not. You choose)

I'd like to think my tax dollars are being spent better in the area of, financing the Congress, rather than democratic leaders fussing over ONE radio talk show host.

While this is not an article so to speak in the traditional GNP articles that you all have been familiar with, it is important for me to tell you all where I stand on many issues to save you time from having to "figure me out."

But never fear, there is yet another. Duke Qa is our co-host here. He will be our "one click to the left." He is rational, educated, and opinionated. A Very logical person. He pushes for butter while I pull for bullets. I hope he decides to post his own post telling us all about his views so we all know and understand him better.

Welcome to Games Nations Play.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 03:12 PM

i should be posting something akin to this, but i am going on a minor vacation for a few days and then have a 3d-modelling assignment at school that i need to finish before Friday, so expect a proper answer Wednesday-Friday next week.

should i just reply in this one, or make a new one?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:09 PM

Mate, legalizing cannabis would be veeeeery bad for society.

If you do this, expect schizophrenia cases to go up, a lot (and other mental disorders). When kids start taking weed and end up with distorted perspectives of reality (plus ending up with no money and addicted), people will say "well I didn't expect that to occur".

It's not a problem to be compared with abortion, it's when you become a threat to others that is the problem.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:15 PM

Mate, legalizing cannabis would be veeeeery bad for society.

If you do this, expect schizophrenia cases to go up, a lot (and other mental disorders). When kids start taking weed and end up with distorted perspectives of reality (plus ending up with no money and addicted), people will say "well I didn't expect that to occur".

Do you have any evidence of that? It's legalised here and I don't see that much more mental disorders. Just because it's allowed doesn't mean people will do it.

Anyway, congrats on the launch Hostile :p. I don't agree with most of your points personally but still, congrats on the launch :D.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 09:53 PM

I read up somewhere that most schizophrenic cases are cannabis induced, more higher if kids are still developing as it does something wrong at that stage. Some people get it, some people don't, although I've read somewhere that those that do take cannabis contribute to the highest proportion of those that do get schizophrenia. I read stories of some kids in the newspaper who took pot at say 12 or so on who then go to kill somebody having a completely distorted perception, or a kid at 15 who was a bright student and now after taking the pot is completely delusional in his 20's.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 10:33 PM

The best athlete and the smartest kid in my high school class both smoked pot.
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Posted 06 October 2007 - 12:11 PM

Do you have any evidence of that? It's legalised here and I don't see that much more mental disorders.

I do. The only difference is, they get elected.
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Posted 06 October 2007 - 09:30 PM

The best athlete and the smartest kid in my high school class both smoked pot.


But the thing is we don't know what long term effects it'll have on them. Some people are made differently to others, plus chances are it'll end up screwing em.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:28 AM

It's not like people haven't smoked pot for 100s of years like the American Indians.

Than again that might explain why they wore skins and talked to animals and the sky god when europeans showed up. :p

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:09 AM

I read up somewhere that most schizophrenic cases are cannabis induced


So just where is this somewhere? 'Cause everyone else I have ever talked to has said that they have absolutely no idea what causes schizophrenia. I have looked heavily into the subject personally, as my uncle is schizophrenic, severely so at a point in his life. Generally, any mention of schizophrenia being related to drug abuse is filled with words like: contested, possibly, inconclusive, contentious, etc. My point is that that is an unbacked and not entirely legitimate claim. "I read up somewhere" isn't really satisfactory for a controversial point. I know a lot of people who have smoked a hell load of weed for a long time and are perfectly healthy and smart. Hell, one of the biggest potheads and drinkers I know skipped two grades.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:13 AM

I think crazy comes from having a broken brain. Life causes schizophrenia as well as cancer. Shit happens IMO.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 11:38 AM

I can tell you drug abuse can lead to mental health disorders. I have a friend who is schizophenic from years of drug abuse and I myself have an anxiety disorder that was made worse by years of cannabis abuse. I don't nessecarily think we should have nanny states telling people how to live their lives. If people want to smoke cannabis let them. I personally choose to steer well away from cannabis and any drugs in fear of further mental health problems. Thats a personal choice. I Have the freedom to make that choice regardless of the law. If people want to smoke cannabis let them, they should have the same freedom of choice that I have not to smoke it. Just limit cannabis smoking in public places. Thats my opinion.

I will probably post something on this site in the next few days. Maybe a general overview of where I think the balance of power in the early 21st century is going and a rant about ignorance and apathy as usual :p

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 07:13 PM

I know drug abuse can lead to drug abuse, but most cases of schizophrenia?
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 09:38 PM

I checked with all three of my personalities, and none of them heard of that either. :lol:

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 01:29 PM

No drug abuse doesn't always lead to mental health disorders. And even if it does most people can recover however it significantly rises the chance yes. Using drugs in moderation however won't lead to mental disorders unless the user is already preciptated to that disorder. The argument drugs should be illegal is ridiculous imo, all that is needed is a proper education and the gradual legalisation of drugs. I am not saying that this will stop drug abuse, but it will undermine organise crime in the drug area drastically and will also hopefully create a more intelligent population for the next generation.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:43 PM

Also note, my intro commented on more than just drugs.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 01:10 AM

I can tell you drug abuse can lead to mental health disorders.



No drug abuse doesn't always lead to mental health disorders.

:lol: Is there a direct contridiction of statements here?

I did also note there is "can" vs "doesn't always"

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 06:31 AM

No, the two statements don't contradict each other. You and Hybrid sort of agree.

Hybrid states it could lead to that, but it doesn't have to. Meaning some cases do, others don't.

You say it doesn't always have to lead to that, it's possible but it doesn't have to. Meaning some cases do, others don't..

The percentages of how many cases you two think lead to it, could be different.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 03:17 PM

Blaat if you look, they are both quotes from Hybrid. I'm not in the convo, I just noticed the statements. :p

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 03:18 PM

Oh, well it was 8:31 AM :p. Then Hybrid just said the same thing twice but in a different way. Sorry.




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