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[Nazgûl]

And that was Beta 4.5?

[Onicrom]

ya it was 4.5, I dont see how the CaH could affect the saving and loading of games but somehow it does.

[Nazgûl]

But I tried a game with the CaHs turned off and i managed to save and load just fine so it doesnt really matter.

ya it was 4.5, I dont see how the CaH could affect the saving and loading of games but somehow it does.

So you're saying, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't?

[Onicrom]

What I'm trying to say, and I'm sorry if I'm not being clear enough, is that If you have CaHs turned off or if you have it enabled but you have not actually built one yet then you can save and load skirmish maps just fine at any point in time. I'm not sure what happens if the AI builds a CaH but you do not though. If you do build a CaH and save then quite the game then re-load it at any point in time after saving then when the load screen gets to 97% the game will crash and give you the message:

Error in loading file 'C:\Users\Chris\AppData\ Roaming\My BAttle for Middle-Earth ™ II Files\Save\Saved Game 1. BFME2 Skirmish'
For a vista user anyway, I have no Idea what it says if you use XP on your computer.

This, of course, is all with the latest version of SEE and a fully updated game.
So in short, if you use CaH then you cant load your saved games but if you have them disabled then everything works just fine. I tried it out and I found this to be true on every map with every faction regardless of how much time has elapsed in game.

[av8r]

Thanks. I think this confirms what we already know.

[Nazgûl]

No it doesn't... I still get the crashes, with or without CaH :(

[drogoth232]

shame for your version(glitch) of game Nazgul it should be punished!

[av8r]

Hmm...then I am not sure I understand his post on the CaH a few posts up; I thought he was saying what we already stated earlier in this thread; that CaH doesnt work on or off...
I don't think anything has changed in the modding of the game since all the troubleshooting we did this time last year when we determined what the problem was, do you?

No it doesn't... I still get the crashes, with or without CaH :(

[Onicrom]

what I was trying to say origninally is why its saving, or atleast trying to load from a directory that seems to not exist when the CaH is present but it does not do so when its not present. I thought that saying the specific directory might help because as I recall Naz is still using XP, unless he changed during my absence, and Sul said he wasn't having any of the crashes, since he always plays with CaH turned off. So I kinda guessed that maybe running a game on Vista when it wasn't meant to might somehow be contributing to the problem. Then Naz thought that I meant the loading crash was random so I restated everything in a kind of all around/full circle kind of way. But anyway, my orignial point was why is it saving, or loading from, this seemingly non-existant folder directory (by the way just to be sure I opened up every single folder in my computer and I still cant find that directory).

[av8r]

you might have hidden folders and files enabled

[Onicrom]

Well, I tried a 8 player free for al game on Tournament Hills with CaHs Turned off and the Ai factions set to random and me playing as Mordor. About 1 hour or so into the game I saved and quite, when I reloaded I encountered the crash. So, I tried it again with all the factions and settings set to as it was before and on the same map and I encountered the crash once more. I tried it again a third time, again exactly the same as before, except this time i saved and loaded immediatly upon starting the game and it worked fine. Just to satisfy my own cureosity I went ahead and ran the exact same map, settings, etc. except with CaH turned on and then I build one immediately and saved then loaded and unsurprisingly I got the crash as I expected. I cannot provide any explanation as to the reason for the crash except, and this is only me thowing things out there, for maybe the Balrog's presence. I only suggest this because it seems to be suffering from a few problems by itself and one was present during both of the first two crashes I talked about in this post.

[av8r]

Have you read back thru this entire thread and other crash threads in this Mod, esp Suls posts where he explains the coding for it? It might help to explain some things for you.

[CapnAstroSponge]

I've been having a problem with saved games, although mine may be something with my computer.
I have one drive with all the base stuff, and one with the games. For some reason, when I got the error, it said it'd been trying to save in the first drive that the mod isn't in.
Could that be the problem in my case?

[{IRS}Athos]

No CAHs, I think.

[Nazgûl]

That wont do it either... This bug might never be solved I'm sorry to say. And it will be the greatest setback and lack of/in SEE :(

@WotR: It's not supported. SEE is SKIRMISH only! As said all over... =p

[Jonasking]

CaH - Create a Hero

[Nothingness]

Hi! Ive been a fan of S.E.E. since the beginning but i never like posting in the forums, just playing the mod. Anyway i did some experimenting and the problem i think lies with the constrution of buildings. When i saved a game with buildings still under construction the game crashed on reloading but didnt crash when no other buildings were under construction. I did this several times and the load worked fine so long as i didnt have anything building. Im not sure if the AI's construction could effect it or not because of the shroud. Anyway, i just thought this bit of info mite help. Also i did this with CAH turned off all the time. If it doesnt work for anyone else sorry but this is the process i used to make sure my games always loaded.

[Nazgûl]

VERY interesting indeed! Could further tests be done on this (from more Players), we'd greatly appreciate it as this is a gigantic problem that we'd love to solve =)