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#121 mike_

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 07:53 PM

I was, but we've decided to ditch that idea as it'd be redundant.
Didn't mean to anger anyone..
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Posted 21 January 2008 - 08:10 PM

Aaand I don't think you did anger anyone, so don't worry. :p

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 08:19 PM

yup :p
you only angered the emperor of Rome, but I doubt he's here to see you :p ;)

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 08:47 PM

Oh, okay lol.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 03:56 PM

This is looking interesting, I like some of these concepts, and it's different enough from the RA dwarf concept that I don't need to send hired goons after you.

I'll be watching to see what turns up art-wise :good:.

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#126 Dain Ironfoot

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 03:04 AM

What? No work again? I shall goon elsewhere then...
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Posted 23 January 2008 - 03:18 PM

Hey, you know I'm busy with other things right now! :shiftee:

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 09:20 PM

I was referring to Nertea's lack of need for hired goons :shiftee:

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 09:24 PM

Ah, didn't connect the dots there. :shiftee:

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#130 mike_

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 10:17 PM

Neither did I, thoght it was a misspelling :thumbsupsmiley:

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:17 AM

ANYWAYS, what other changes will there be for the other factions? Any new skins, units, or heroes?

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 04:24 AM

We haven't really discussed that much, other than the removal of team colours.
However, if both ethics and the rules of modding were thrown out the window, we'd just port over TEA's changes to the existing factions.
Have't discussed that with either Matias or Lauri yet, though, so don't take that as fact - or even a rumour.
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Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:48 PM

Bump...
Anyway, here's two proposed Dwarven heroes (proposed meaning I just thought of them and haven't talked with either Matias or Lauri 'bout them):
Múrin
Description: One of a pair of traveling Dwarves, Múrin is quite unusual in that he wields a bow as his weapon of choice. Surprisingly, they are quite unlike their kin in that they choose to traverse the many miles that cover Middle-earth. Having ventured everywhere from the Dwarf Holds in the Iron Hills to the Gondorian fief of Lossanarch, to even enjoying respites in the House of Elrond in Rivendel, they are well-aquanted with people in many different lands.
Powers:
Level One- Marksman. Increases his attack power by 70% for a short period of time.
Level Two- Expert Shot. Fires a powerful ranged attack.
Level Four- Companions. Passive. Increases his attack rate when close to Drár.
Level Five- Geared for War. Increases his armour values by 100%.
Drár
Description: The other half of the pair, Drár is different as well in his use of a sword and shield. He is a valiant warrior, having fought many an Orc, Goblin, and Evil Man in his time - and always coming victorious. Though he often quarrels with his friend Múrin, he is also loyal to him and enjoys the company of another like-minded individual. He is garbed in various leathers and maile, a stark comparison to the wealthier Dwarves that reside in their respective realms.
Powers:
Level One- Goblin Bane. Increases his attack power by 70% for a short period of time.
Level Two- Baruk Khazad! Radiates a leadership bonus of +25% speed and +25% attack power to nearby units.
Level Three- Shield Bash. Single, powerful attack with knockback.
Level Five- Geared for War. Increases his armour values by 100%.
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There you go. In no way is this fact, or even going to happen (for the time being).
Just some ideas I've had floating around in my head. Feel free to comment!
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#134 Lauri

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:16 PM

floating around over at GW, you mean...? :lol:
Still, I wouldn't have too much against it...
You did come up with possible ideas for once... :)
Also, Geared for War.... Visual upgrade too?

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#135 mike_

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:22 PM

The concept is from GW, yes, but making them fit into BFME is from me :lol:
I'd like for Geared for War to be a visual upgrade, but that's pretty low on the priority list.
And thanks :)

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 09:55 AM

I have found quite alot of heroes in this thread :lol: 12 normal+1 summoned. I hope that not all of them are going to be included because if my memory does serve me right, in vanilla BFME1 there isnt so many heroes per faction. Dain II Ironfoot, Gloin, Gimli, Thorin III Stonehelm, Bifur, Bofur, Dori, Dwalin+Bard II as summon were in your techtree but even with those, the amount of heroes for one faction would be insane but do as you wish.

#137 Lauri

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:17 AM

woah... I didn't notice that we had that many heroes...
still, I'll let Matias come in and give a word :)
But yeah, I don't think that they should really have any more than at max 8, pluss Bard II....
Unless the dwarves will be loads of heroes, high CP hordes, and just plain max damage and defence, then yeah... I don't mind :lol:

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 03:19 PM

Yes, I've been mulling over that as well..I'm basically listing all of the characters we could have as heroes, and then when we get to that stage in production we can pick the best candidates out of the list.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 04:25 PM

Well, we kinda just have to have Dain, Thorin, Dwalin... I don't know much about Bifur, Bofur, Gloin and Dori and what they did in the war... I mean, if they did something special in the war, or were just high ranked among the dwarves ;) Hadhod I don't know who is, and neither his SUMMONED hero Elegost... invented, both of 'em? And there's the new guys also...
Gimli, Son of Gloin, is by personal pick if removing heroes.... I mean, he does fit quite nice with Legolas and Aragorn in Rohan, and he didn't do any figthing in the Lonely Mountain, did he?

So, if I had a word now, I would say
Dain II
Thorin III
Dwalin

Gloin
Bifur
Bofur

Murin\Drar
or
Dori\Hadhod (with his Elegost)

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 04:50 PM

Hadhod and Elegost are both from EA's The Third Age console game, so no I didn't make them up ;)
Here's what I see as the essential heroes:
Dain II Ironfoot - big leader guy, the "Theoden" of this faction
Thorin III Stonehelm - powerful, troop leading hero, "Aragorn/Eomer-esque"
Gimli - mid game hero
Hadhod&Elegost/Murin&Drar - early game heroes.
Anyone besides that would be extras, really.
I realize that Gimli didn't do any fighting for the Lonely Mountain during the War of the Ring, but I like to think of our Erebor faction as "pre-WotR" era...if that's to be contested, okay. I guess we can leave him in Rohan..
However, it really depends on how many heroes Matias wants to do, so I'll wait for him to say something before deciding anything final.
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