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#1 Jonasking

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:32 PM

I have an idea . The ships dont fire arrows but they have cannons ! I didint check the forum if there was somebody else with this suggestion. And it should be very cool if Helms Deeps (this is hard to spell in english :)) Way to the entres(the gate) was like a bridge like the films . In Swedish :( Hope Nazgul come here and spell in english :) ) Jo , att vid ingången till Helms Klyfta så är ju de längs marken i BFME2 , Om ni gjorde så att den var som en bro som i filmerna skulle det vara skit bra =). And i think the Noldor warriors dont have to be a "hero-unit" i will they can be pumped out from the barracks like the Lorien Warriors , In a cost of 600 and 80 CP ( lvl 3 Barracks) . They will be weaker of course . And sank the prise of Lorien Warriors , 500/700 not 1000! The some of my ideas . Say what you think about this ideas . And i hope you will understand my text , im from sweden and im 12 years old , so I think it can be hard to understand this text but try =)

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:42 PM

And each faction should have their own ships, cause Dwarves-Elven ships or Goblins-Mordor ships= :) Just a thought.
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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:51 PM

Feel free to discuss ships for S.E.E. in here. Just be aware that there are no plans for the near future to include new or changed ships. Our priorities lie in other regions at the moment, specifically in making the land battle experience better. Changed SpellBooks and the new faction EvilMen lie also far higher on the ladder then ships, so even if you do have great (and doable) ideas, don't expect additions to the mod regarding ships anytime soon. :)

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 10:00 PM

Great =) but it sounds nice with cannons ? :) Hehe . And you have done a really great job with the special edition mod , Thank you . Is there set any release(spelling?) date yet on the 4.6 beta? Can you tell some new elves units if they come any ? I love the elves. :) Yes , Merry christmas everybody !

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 04:44 AM

Hey Jonas and welcome to the forums =)
I must say I'm impressed by your spelling, espescially considering you're only 12 yo ;)

And yes, this thread can stay as an official Suggestions Thread for Ships in SEE =)

A quick answer to your comment though is only confirming what Sûl said. Ships won't be dealt with until later in production.... However, in SEE ships are 1) Scaled and 2) modified in speed to look and feel more like ships. For later versions of SEE we will add more models so the ships will differ more between the factions. We already HAVE some new models from Age of Men mod, but they're not finished so we can't use them yet :p


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Jag måste säga att jag är imponerad av din stavning, speciallt med tanke på att du är bara 12 år gammal :good:

Och ja, detta kan förbli den officiella Förslagstråden för skepp i SEE =)

Ett snabbt svar på din komentar är bara en bekräftelse på vad Sûl sade. Skepp kommmer inte att hanteras förrän senare i produktionen... Men i SEE så är skepp redan: 1) Förstorade och 2) modifierade i hastighet för att se ut och kännas mer som skepp. I senare versioner av SEE kommer vi att addera fler modeller så att skeppen skiljer sig mer mellan faktionerna. Vi har redan en del nya modeller från Age of Men modden, men de är inte färdiga så vi kan inte använda dem än :ohmy:


From here on, I will communicate only in english though ;) You're free to use swedish when you can't find the words sometimes, but so far you're doing great =)

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#6 Jonasking

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 11:41 AM

Hey Jonas and welcome to the forums =)
I must say I'm impressed by your spelling, espescially considering you're only 12 yo ;)

And yes, this thread can stay as an official Suggestions Thread for Ships in SEE =)

A quick answer to your comment though is only confirming what Sûl said. Ships won't be dealt with until later in production.... However, in SEE ships are 1) Scaled and 2) modified in speed to look and feel more like ships. For later versions of SEE we will add more models so the ships will differ more between the factions. We already HAVE some new models from Age of Men mod, but they're not finished so we can't use them yet :p


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Hej Jonas och välkommen till forumet =)
Jag måste säga att jag är imponerad av din stavning, speciallt med tanke på att du är bara 12 år gammal :good:

Och ja, detta kan förbli den officiella Förslagstråden för skepp i SEE =)

Ett snabbt svar på din komentar är bara en bekräftelse på vad Sûl sade. Skepp kommmer inte att hanteras förrän senare i produktionen... Men i SEE så är skepp redan: 1) Förstorade och 2) modifierade i hastighet för att se ut och kännas mer som skepp. I senare versioner av SEE kommer vi att addera fler modeller så att skeppen skiljer sig mer mellan faktionerna. Vi har redan en del nya modeller från Age of Men modden, men de är inte färdiga så vi kan inte använda dem än :ohmy:


From here on, I will communicate only in english though ;) You're free to use swedish when you can't find the words sometimes, but so far you're doing great =)


Thanks =).And your ships are so cool ! So i can wait , and i can live witout cannons =)
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 01:21 PM

Each faction could have a "Leader of the Fleet" ship that would be extra-powerful and have special abilities.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 08:21 PM

Each faction could have a "Leader of the Fleet" ship that would be extra-powerful and have special abilities.



Yeah , that would be awesome ! Like "The Black Pearl" and "The Flying Dutschment" (kidding=) .

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:35 AM

Yes, the cannons would be a vast improvement from the arrows. I mean, it doesn't really feel like you're using ships unless they're firing cannons. I thought the exact same thing one day while playing Grey Havens. Hope it happens by Beta V! :lol:
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:37 AM

I say that there should be a super special and power ship that would be avaibale to all fractions of that side(ex. Forces of Light). One that would have features of all of the fractions. ex. a really big ship with elven designs, while on the top there would be trebuchets and dwarven catapults. So that it is fair, it would be 150 command points. You could only have one and lastly, it cost 40000 gold. Thell me what you think.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 03:01 AM

love the idea of cannons. :crazed: . orcabn, now that would be fun to get! but imagine if your enemy got one!
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:59 PM

Imo cannons could be very cool, but wouldnt fit much within Lotr or See for that matter, I mean why use cannons on ships if you don't use them on the land? ;)

On the other hand I have a suggestion too :crazed:
How about letting the player buy real life archers (those you can See standing on the ships) to fire at other ships, like with the Battlewagon :crazed:
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 08:57 PM

I say that there should be a super special and power ship that would be avaibale to all fractions of that side(ex. Forces of Light). One that would have features of all of the fractions. ex. a really big ship with elven designs, while on the top there would be trebuchets and dwarven catapults. So that it is fair, it would be 150 command points. You could only have one and lastly, it cost 40000 gold. Thell me what you think.


40000? Are you kidding? That's 4 times as much as a ringhero! S.E.E. any problem there?
P.S. And evil could have a corsair ship with poison arrows and Isengard mines it could drop.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 09:23 PM

40000? Are you kidding? That's 4 times as much as a ringhero! S.E.E. any problem there?
P.S. And evil could have a corsair ship with poison arrows and Isengard mines it could drop.

late game i'm always rolling in cash and in SEE ringheros cost 20000, so it's only double.
about that ship though, how about you can only get it if your enemy gets the ring?
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 09:44 PM

Sounds great! Though I think that the evil ship should have a goblin-like design with Mordor catapults and Isengard ballistas. Also I think that there should be a mine lanucher on the bow. The good ship should have spears on the bow to crash into and damage the enemy ship. the good ship should also have sliverthron arrows and the evil ship should have flaming posion arrows. What do you think.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:07 PM

First thing-Poison Fire Arrows=NUKE
Second thing-Corsairs=shipwrights, Gobbos=not shipwrights
Third, and most important-I assume that in S.E.E. the AI will get ships so that you will actually have to build them?

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 02:46 PM

first:
a ringhero costs in SEE 20 000 :crazed:


and I don't like cannons.
There were no gunpowder units in LotR.
Only Saruman had something like that.
I would use just fire/silverthorn arrows.

And I'm against such a supership.
I don't like things with no possibility to counter...
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 08:45 PM

Each faction could have a "Leader of the Fleet" ship that would be extra-powerful and have special abilities.



Yeah , that would be awesome ! Like "The Black Pearl" and "The Flying Dutschment" (kidding=) .


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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:52 AM

There were no gunpowder units in LotR.
Only Saruman had something like that.


You know, you kind of contradicted yourself there. Saying that no one used gunpowder, then you come back and say someone did.

Despite the fact that it was just Saruman, it doesn't mean that Umbar never discovered the 'technology' to make gunpowder. But, oh well, I suppose you're right. It doesn't seem quite LotR-esque to have cannons in LotR.
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:28 PM

Sry, I meant nobody used gunpowder, but Isengard :p

There is nothing said about umbar in LotR about gunpowder, so there is a possibility that they could have that technologies, but if they had cannons Sauron would have used the cannons instead of the catapults in the siege of Minas Tirith.
So I don't think that they had this technologie.
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