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#1 Dane Kiet

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:59 AM

I am having a problem finding heroes or where to buy them, even if theri home worlds are in the map!! For instance, Luke. When playing the Far, Far Away GC, he is on tatooine. Simple right? Well, he isn't there on the Thrawn campaign, even though the planet is. He is also not at Coroscant and i can'tthink of a planet on the campaign that it would fit for him to be on. Is he even on the map? this confuses me!!!!
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:12 AM

Heh, it's an adventure! Yeah, the "standard" campaigns (the galaxy ones and portions thereof) all generally use their homeworlds, otherwise they use a planet strongly associated with the character. The historical scenario campaigns use places that they visited during that timeframe, but I only chose one planet for now. I plan to go back and put them on a few more so they're easier to find on those.

PS: I think Luke's on Myrkr for Thrawn. So is Mara for the Empire. Isn't that sneaky :rolleyes:?

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#3 Dane Kiet

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:19 AM

i was wondering, could you have mara jade change sides during certain campaigns? in the next installment of this mod, i don't expect a patch for this one.
ps: Mara is just an example, you could change the sides of other characters as well. if it fits canonly

Edited by Dane Kiet, 02 January 2008 - 04:36 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:21 AM

I've considered it, but no promises. It would require some scripting.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:42 AM

oh well, i guess i'l have to get TR mod when it comes out to have Luke and Mara fight side by side.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:04 AM

This isn't really the place to discuss other mods.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:21 PM

Just for now, could you post a 'where to find a hero' somewhere obvious or do we have to conquer every planet to find out?

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:42 PM

probably the second, what i wonder is y you have DS luke but not LS mara. do you hate the rebels or something? it's like you want the empire players to laugh with glee and the rebels to spend more time hiding than fighting!!!
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Posted 03 January 2008 - 11:18 PM

probably the second, what i wonder is y you have DS luke but not LS mara. do you hate the rebels or something? it's like you want the empire players to laugh with glee and the rebels to spend more time hiding than fighting!!!


now I see what you meant in the other forum.. perhapes he meant it would take alot of scripting to get Mara to change sides during a GC.. in Shadow Hand Luk is just bad .. I dunno

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:18 AM

"Just for now, could you post a 'where to find a hero' somewhere obvious or do we have to conquer every planet to find out?" -(ghostrider)

"Heh, it's an adventure!" -(phoenix rising)


One of those, I want to know, but I don't wanna know questions. I read the reply before playing the mod, but that didn't really locate everyone. I think I'll lean toward easter egg hunting, since the :blush: can only last so long, before we have it all memorized. The Q that kept getting me, is if certain structures opened certain guys,b/c that could become a nutshell game if you don't keep the planet long enough to build everything.

"do you hate the rebels or something? it's like you want the empire players to laugh with glee and the rebels to spend more time hiding than fighting!!!"-(dane kiet)

With the Rebels, I don't really get it. Isn't it a bit like wanting to be David, then griping about only getting a lousy slingshot? Most fans of the Rebels seem to miss that had Vader NOT tossed ol' Palpi down the shaft, you're whole hail mary is a flop! Oh yeah, & you're dead. Sure it takes a boatload of bodies to clean up the mess & declare victory, but basically if not for Luke & Anakin, the Rebels had zero to do with their triumph.
If canon is so important (though that varies from fan to fan) you "rebel scum" are lucky to have pants on, & boots to wear. We already know where you stole the blaster rifles from. ;)
I'm still not comfortable seeing our beloved Star Destroyers turned into garbage trucks.
(pssst. The rebels did spend more time hiding than fighting)

A game is a game, however, & fun is fun, so I guess you WILL actually need some toys to hurl around. Considering the alternatives, donating our old broken junk to make room for all the shiny new ships isn't so bad. :xd:

Edited by GrandMoffThoth, 04 January 2008 - 01:20 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:30 AM

"Just for now, could you post a 'where to find a hero' somewhere obvious or do we have to conquer every planet to find out?" -(ghostrider)

"Heh, it's an adventure!" -(phoenix rising)


One of those, I want to know, but I don't wanna know questions. I read the reply before playing the mod, but that didn't really locate everyone. I think I'll lean toward easter egg hunting, since the :blush: can only last so long, before we have it all memorized. The Q that kept getting me, is if certain structures opened certain guys,b/c that could become a nutshell game if you don't keep the planet long enough to build everything.

"do you hate the rebels or something? it's like you want the empire players to laugh with glee and the rebels to spend more time hiding than fighting!!!"-(dane kiet)

With the Rebels, I don't really get it. Isn't it a bit like wanting to be David, then griping about only getting a lousy slingshot? Most fans of the Rebels seem to miss that had Vader NOT tossed ol' Palpi down the shaft, you're whole hail mary is a flop! Oh yeah, & you're dead. Sure it takes a boatload of bodies to clean up the mess & declare victory, but basically if not for Luke & Anakin, the Rebels had zero to do with their triumph.
If canon is so important (though that varies from fan to fan) you "rebel scum" are lucky to have pants on, & boots to wear. We already know where you stole the blaster rifles from. ;)
I'm still not comfortable seeing our beloved Star Destroyers turned into garbage trucks.
(pssst. The rebels did spend more time hiding than fighting)

A game is a game, however, & fun is fun, so I guess you WILL actually need some toys to hurl around. Considering the alternatives, donating our old broken junk to make room for all the shiny new ships isn't so bad. :xd:


eh... I'm the guy that sends X-wings to knock out a ISD.. I don't like using big ships alot

#12 Dane Kiet

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:11 AM

the rebels as canon hid and ran, yes. But how much fun would a game be if the player mostly payed hide and seek? besides, in case you hadn't noticed, he stole one of the rebels heroes from them (yes, it is canon, but we don't get anything!!) and those heroes ARE WHAT WON THE WAR!!! i shoudl at least have ONE jedi to fight the emporer and luke. And yes, i know these events happened before the jedi academy, but still! this campaign is a pain in my rear. i am have been tempted to play cheap instead of fun!

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:16 AM

the rebels as canon hid and ran, yes. But how much fun would a game be if the player mostly payed hide and seek? besides, in case you hadn't noticed, he stole one of the rebels heroes from them (yes, it is canon, but we don't get anything!!) and those heroes ARE WHAT WON THE WAR!!! i shoudl at least have ONE jedi to fight the emporer and luke. And yes, i know these events happened before the jedi academy, but still! this campaign is a pain in my rear. i am have been tempted to play cheap instead of fun!


so.. play a different campaign? I for one like "The Core Worlds".. small but potent

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:23 AM

"eh... I'm the guy that sends X-wings to knock out a ISD.. I don't like using big ships alot" -(muneyoshi)

...So you're the guy?...
Reckon I caught somethin' or other 'bout a ragtag huntin' bison with a scalpel.
Don't lemmie catch ya 'round my boys, we'll string ya up fer a game o' Chk'Tk Qsa!
On second thought...it'd be nice to dust off the uulx.;):xd::blush:

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:30 AM

"eh... I'm the guy that sends X-wings to knock out a ISD.. I don't like using big ships alot" -(muneyoshi)

...So you're the guy?...
Reckon I caught somethin' or other 'bout a ragtag huntin' bison with a scalpel.
Don't lemmie catch ya 'round my boys, we'll string ya up fer a game o' Chk'Tk Qsa!
On second thought...it'd be nice to dust off the uulx.;):xd::blush:


lol.. X-wings vs ISD is actually a good match up.. not 1 squad mind you.. 4 - 5.. they can cover each other and knock of enemy fighters as well as fire torps at the ISD and eventually take it down.. it works :cool2:

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:59 AM

"(yes, it is canon, but we don't get anything!!) and those heroes ARE WHAT WON THE WAR!!! i shoudl at least have ONE jedi to fight the emporer and luke" -(Dane Kiet)

- - I am on the record for there never being too many units. I also never play as the rebels. Nothing more boring than a fight that's over before it ever starts though, & as I tried to somewhat seriously throw in there, it is a game after all & meant to be fun/competitive. If the timeline is strict, then Leia was greatly developed vs her New Hope days, even had a pretty green stick. If conversion is added, she could even be who can change Luke back. I agree it would be awesome to see all the christmas lights twinkle back & forth, but it will probably take a lot of work to get it to work. A=B here though, ya get that far & you've already crossed most of the journey toward creating the Ssi-Ruuvi Tech tree.
I don't remember off hand who else is a jedi you should have to make it fair during that timeframe. All the Jedi Academy students would be on worlds minding their business, but Leia might have the highest upside especially if there's a 'hook up w/Han' upgrade to create the twins & lil anakin. Definately be a hit!

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:11 PM

lol, all the little players will then start asking "where do babies come from?" But i do believe Kyle was a jedi by then, so i think that you can mod him to be a jedi.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:39 PM

lol, all the little players will then start asking "where do babies come from?" But i do believe Kyle was a jedi by then, so i think that you can mod him to be a jedi.


You could.. but he was.. and should be.. no match for Luke

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 09:11 PM

probably the second, what i wonder is y you have DS luke but not LS mara. do you hate the rebels or something? it's like you want the empire players to laugh with glee and the rebels to spend more time hiding than fighting!!!

Mara was mostly with Karrde during the Thrawn Trilogy, but still under orders from the dead Emperor, so I gave her to the Empire. She had no part in Shadow Hand, so she doesn't show up.

If the timeline is strict, then Leia was greatly developed vs her New Hope days, even had a pretty green stick.

But i do believe Kyle was a jedi by then, so i think that you can mod him to be a jedi.

A lot of the hero upgrades I saved for ground, since they better fall under that scope (also because I need new models that I don't have). What you basically get now are some cool ships to go with your heroes, but nothing more.

lol, all the little players will then start asking "where do babies come from?"

Haha, you guys are hilarious ;)...

#20 Dane Kiet

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 02:31 AM

Back to the original topic, will you have an easier time finding heroes on GC if you read the books? For instance, i understand where you are getting the starting positions of Han, Wedge, Tycho, Luke, and Leia (though i AM having a hard time finding Iblis, and no, don't tell me where he is, i want to find out on my own :mellow: ). Finally, slightly off topic, but will there be new campaigns in the land release?

Edited by Dane Kiet, 06 January 2008 - 02:32 AM.

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