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#221 Gothmog14

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 05:37 PM

Duuuddddeeee, awesome stuff once again. Love them all.

love them :D though i do think the galadhrim warriors look kinda sad :shiftee:


Hehe, yea I thought so to :).

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 06:39 PM

Outstanding job, I really can't wait to play them when the new version comes out!
BTW, I like the choices and skins for the hero-hordes :shiftee:
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#223 Myrdin

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 06:55 PM

My goal is to have them be a little weaker at level 1 - so roughly not much weaker than fully upgrade elite units at the same level. The will still have their powers, though I will change them a little for balance. Then about level 3-5 or so I want them to pass the elite's in strenth to become the strongest for the faction. Ideally I want all units to be a viable choice while still maintaining the power of the m.h.h.


Ah then theres no problem with me, i feared you want to nerf,them drastically, and make them just normal unit like. But this clears a lot of the misuderstaning. Ai, if they be strong like elite, and later surpase them, im ok with that. Just dont forget to let them be able to respawn after lvl 2 coz loosing a hero horde that could respawn, is one of things i hate most ( mostly i mean this for the evil ones, becouse good, just puts them near fountain )
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#224 shadowcreature

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:28 PM

elves be lookin so awesome more and more it would appear. :shiftee: and after reading what rob said bout m.h.h. units i think it'd be a nice addition to wotr. :)

#225 Myrdin

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:34 PM

ohh yeh, forgot to mention

beying able to m.h.h in WOTR, sound absolute MEGA COOOOOOOL !!!!!! :shiftee: :) :D
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#226 Puppeteer

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:45 PM

wow oh wow oh wow, this is incredible work! It puts EA's models, skins and ideas to shame!

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:46 PM

Hey puppeteer, welcome! And yeah, it definatly does...if EA had put half as much work as this into bfme2 or rotwk...

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 08:55 PM

then right now i would be playing it like crazy :shiftee:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#229 CIL

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 12:12 AM

To reskin Elrond, reskin the Noldor Warriors so that the bottom looks more like the EA Elrond and the top without a helm and add a blue cape and the little chain hexagon thingy he wore over his upper torso and part of his neck. He wore a blue cape in the Last Alliance. Also, yes your models/skins put EA to shame (like that of most mods) but I think the faces could look a bit more expression-less than upset and having a higher quality cuirass like in TEA (for the Galadhrim). The possibility of the maximum number of M.H.H. units you can have being removed made me ecstatic the moment I read it. Also, Haldir's only differences from the normal Galadhrim were skill, the fact that he wore no helmet, and the fact that his SWORD WAS DRAWN FROM HIS SIDE. I also dislike the way the Elves fire arrows so giving their animation to Rohan and making the old Mirkwood archer animation universal would make more sence. My proof:

P.S. Sorry for the criticism but I just think that these 2 characters need a bit of a face-lift

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#230 Xingdao Fan

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 07:59 AM

3 demi-hero hordes? :\ Isn't that a bit exaggerated?

So many Mirkwood units... are the Elven Swordsmen / Elven Archers being kept?

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 08:18 AM

Yepp, they are lorien's basic infantry now.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 08:38 AM

i hope that choosing minifaction gives you balance like - this elfes are good swordsman weak at cawalery, this are great archers weak at mellee, this have ultimate elven cawalery, but the other stuff is weak.

becouse if they all gonna equally strong, - all of them stronger than for example human units, then i think the only diference between them would be just the skin and models used :shiftee:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#233 Devon

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 01:41 PM

Mirkwood is gonna be weak armored, high damage and attack speed, fast movement, very stealthed....basically hit and run.
Rivendell will be the most armored faction, not really stealth, slower units, but strong armor and attacked.
Lorien somewhere in the middle.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 03:20 PM

sounds good
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 09:35 PM

Time for another unit that is nearly finished. Still have a couple of small things to do, but I thought I'd show them off.

Lorien Cavalry - model - robnkarla, skin by EHL, robnkarla, & Shikari

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#236 Gothmog14

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:26 AM

That's ballin (lol sorry).

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:12 PM

I hope that cavalry is strong, I hate to see weak Elves >.<

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#238 Myrdin

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:24 PM

and i hate see OP elfes
( trample cant kill anything with one hit, FIX THAT no matter what, for that is thing that needs to be fixed )
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
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"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

#239 Shikari

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 02:25 PM

Cavalry should be pretty strong. Each subfaction only has 1 cavalry unit. Mirkwood has cavalry archers, Rivendell lancers and Lothlorien toggle bow/lance.

*Updated the first post in this topic* - This should make it easy to see which units which subfactions get. Not all of them are done yet, but we've almost finished all of the units. The only remaining units are:
- Lorien Pikemen
- Rivendell Elite Swordsmen

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#240 Myrdin

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Posted 07 April 2008 - 03:53 PM

cawalery should be strong right, but if it occours only by elfs that they can trample a hero with 1/2 hp, than i thing something is wrong, and more wrong it is if they trample a lvl 10 dwarven guardians who are the the most durable unit in game ( 400 hp at lvl1, only phalanxes have more +100, but logicaly pikemans cant be trampled the normal way all others do ) than i think something is terribly wrong.
Not even rohirrim have such op trample, and they are the horse lords of middleearth, ( i dont speak about mounted hero hordes, thats something diferent again ), and if you open a file where is a lot of things written ( statistic and stuff ) you can see there that right now the elven cavalery has unlimited trample power.
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"




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