US Shot Down Russian Bomber?
#1
Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:02 AM
http://edition.cnn.c...mber/index.html
When a Russian bomber buzzes the Nimitz within 2000 feet, than maybe you have gone too far. Yesterday they violated Japanese airspace. So what are they asking for? How about we shoot one down and let's find out.
I've been watching this game go on for a few years now. So I remember in 1985 when the Russians destroyed a S Korean civilian airline for accidently violating Russian airspace. You know what, drop one of thiers by accident and see how the chips fall.
If the Russians are feelingly froggy, let them leap. You'll be suprised how fast "we" wrap up the war in Iraq when a greater threat "decides to rear it's ugly head"
Europe better get off it's ass and rebuild it's military. Can't wait to see how the commie youth will respond to this article...
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#2
Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:13 AM
Too cute! | Server Status: If you can read this, it's up |Well, when it comes to writing an expository essay about counter-insurgent tactics, I'm of the old school. First you tell them how you're going to kill them. Then you kill them. Then you tell them how you just killed them.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 01:58 PM
#4
Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:23 PM
been flying like madmen around Norway for quite a while now, made chopper flights between the oil-platforms impossible for a while because of the unpredictability of the Russian airplanes. not that we care too much, its annoying but not really anything else as of yet.
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#5
Posted 13 February 2008 - 01:14 AM
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Until Men united wield a hallowed sabre
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#6
Posted 13 February 2008 - 02:29 AM
Supporting a war for economic reasons is idiotic and outright evil.Well, who knows? It could help revitalize the US economy to have something to produce if something breaks out between us and Russia. I also wonder what the internet would be like in a war like that. But, hey. Not for it, but some interesting things could come from conventional (that means, no nukes) war sprouting its head in this day and age.
Supporting a military action against another nation which could very well cause World War III is, again, idiotic.
Russia is no longer relevant, and to make the mistake of potentially causing a war over these minor incidents designed to try and prolong their haegemony is completely and totally moronic. Need I say more?
#7
Posted 13 February 2008 - 03:04 AM
OLD SIG
When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself,
first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
As the demon sleeps, man turns on man.
Its own blood, and madness soon cover the earth.
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz.
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light.
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
Until Men united wield a hallowed sabre
In Final Reckoning, the beast is slain.
Razgriz intrerpretation
#8
Posted 13 February 2008 - 04:46 AM
Second. Pointing out that it might be interesting is implicit support for a shooting war which would undoubtedly cost... 6 billion human lives. Furthermore, thinking that it's "cool" and that "good things" come out of the most destructive blights to affect humanity is plain... stupid. World War I, for all of its savagery, saw improvements in field medicine, advances in motor transport and production, and generally, a greater understanding of how to fight wars. World War II, owing to its massive scale and duration, saw improvements in almost every applied science. Both of those wars lasted more than 4 years, this war would last four weeks.
Another thing to keep in mind is not the technological improvements that seemingly come out of wars, but also the destruction. Twenty four million people died in the USSR as a result of the German invasion. I consider that the primary concern, not the fact that World War II gave us fun, exciting new ways to blow up the world, or that World War II saw the proliferation of air power, or that World War II advanced science a great deal through massive funding. My primary concern is with the fact that twenty four million people, a number which is just a third short of the entire population of Canada, died in a period before the massive population boom. Why was this tolerated? It's because people had an apathetic view of war, and saw it as a means to affect the changes they wanted to see.
If you think there's anything remotely cool or interesting about war, you're a misguided, arrogant nationalist. Whoever wins, we all lose, and even if we don't, every missile launched, every bullet fired, every rifle fabricated diverts us from concerning ourselves with our societal issues, with education, with the advancement of knowledge. Every war costs lives; people who could be brilliant scientists, cunning politicians, industry leaders, engineers of true change and enlightenment in the world. To be anything but the most strictly opposed to war is implicit approval of this disgusting thought that war can serve some higher purpose. War itself is a crime, try to remember that.
#9
Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:46 AM
Whilst a war is something that is by no means applaudable, the consequences are not to be ignored. Advancements in technology and advancements in society are the long terms results, because they're fueled by the need to be developed for survival. I doubt we'd even be able to have this conversation without the massive improvements brought about by telecommunications researched in World War 2.
The war no doubt cost many millions of lives, but the long term effect is the saving of billions more.
#11
Posted 13 February 2008 - 01:22 PM
#12 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 13 February 2008 - 01:24 PM
How many people did we all lose again?
Yeah, i'd rather have the people and not see a bunch of old men going round "Oh back in the olden days in the war"and all that bollocks
#13
Posted 13 February 2008 - 01:47 PM
Again, jumping over a point: I AM NOT FOR A WAR. I PONDER WHAT COULD COME OUT OF IT. YES, BAD THINGS COME OUT OF WAR. GOOD THINGS DO, TOO [not in the same quantity, but you should be seeing the point]If I were a jackass, I'd tl;dr this one.
And to think, I used to silently agree with some things you say. [facepalm]
OLD SIG
When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself,
first as a dark demon. As a demon it uses it power to rain death upon the land,
and then it dies. However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns
As the demon sleeps, man turns on man.
Its own blood, and madness soon cover the earth.
From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz.
Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light.
Amidst the eternal waves of time
From a ripple of change shall the storm rise
Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon
Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath
The demon soars through the dark skies
Fear and Death trail its shadow beneath
Until Men united wield a hallowed sabre
In Final Reckoning, the beast is slain.
Razgriz intrerpretation
#14
Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:44 PM
the Germans learned alot from the spanish civil war after all. And with the war on terror, you don't get half the world against you when you need to experiment a bit. just claim its for the greater good and sent troopers around. naturally we don't get the same quantities of quality research out of that, but then again i doubt we can find as many immoral scientists around these days, to use the raw-materials from a conventional war for anything useful.
a conventional war in modern time would be disastrous for the corporations and whatnot. the majority of corporations would lose tons of money on making weapons instead of flatscreens and ps3's and whatnot. you can't squeeze as much out of the army as you can out of average joe, because the army shoots back
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#15 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:00 PM
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