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Which epic unit in Kanes wrath is the strongest in 1v1 combat?


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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:33 PM

What do you think guys?I am almost sure that that unit will be the MARV just because its the biggest,its a TANK and since the first C&C there is tradition for the GDI units to be strongest in 1v1 combat.Also you can see that the MARV is giant version of mammoth,redeemer of avatar and same about next and the mammoth is strongest of all other units of that tier so i think MARV will be strongest in 1v1.It dosnt make sense unit which is 3 times smaller then the MARV to be stronger and ther other epic units are realy smaller!

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 04:34 PM

Knowing EA's balance-to-the-max technique, all the Epic Units will probably be equal against each other.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:50 PM

Knowing EA's balance-to-the-max technique, all the Epic Units will probably be equal against each other.


I don't know... GDI is a tad overpowered... or at least definitely in early game.
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 12:35 PM

From the videos i have seen it will of the marv

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 04:46 PM

I know its an old topic but after playing the mod i would say no epic unit is the same.
Please Note just because they are epic units does not make them an frontline combatant.

The marv imo is rather powerful but not as heavy armored as 1 might think, its whole objective is to gather tiberium.
It is epic because it can suck up the tiberium and process it while on the move make it harder for your enemy to gather funds, it becomes a war or attrition, its high power and 4 infantry spots are simply there to protect it while its doing its job, of course if you wanted to use it in an attack you can, But for me i find it more effective to let t gather my cash while defending itself letting me mass build other units to walk over the enemy that are faster to move.

Nods epic unit redeemer i would possible say is the most powerful and maybe the most heavily armored (but not sure) its whole reason is to kill nothing else rush in kill the enemy and fuck with any infantry thats trys to attack it using its rage power.

Scrins Epic unit the eradicator hexapod is more armored than that of the marv but weaker then the redeemer's, its reason is because its not about attacking head on, its aboutgetting cash from kills. Units that die withing its field is given as cash (kinda like the GLA cash bounty system in generals) But since that only takes effect while killing it has to be stronger than the marv, but since it has that extra ability it is weaker then the redeemer.

So in my opinion if your simply wanting to base it on 1 on 1 it would be redeemer coming out on top. (of course I've never really tested it to find out)

My set ups are normally.

MARV = 2 engineers + 2 zone troopers. (of course depending on the situation at hand i might change that)
Putting 1 sniper in and having the MARV on hold ground is pretty good too if u want to spot targets for bombardment, aslong as the MARV don't move while spotting your all good. Just like APC's with snipers in.

Redeemer = 1 engineer and 1 infantry or black hand, IF a lot of air coming my way the maybe put 2 engineers in and escort with AA purely to keep it alive.

Eradicator hexipod = 1 engineer + 2 shock troopers or disintergrators, sometimes 2 engineers are better tho.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 09:14 PM

According to EA's unit spotlights, the MARV is the most durable in a one-on-one fight. Though my Kane's Wrath is still en route from Guernsey or whatever strange place the store ships its Internet goods from, so I can't check for myself...
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Posted 15 September 2008 - 02:28 PM

Hi I'm new here! Anyway, I've done some testing myself. If you're talking about fully upgraded Epic Units then I can tell you this:
The MARV, when garrisoned with 4 Zone Raiders and is at Hero Rank (The Star Rank) is pretty much the strongest unit in land battles. 1 of it is more than capable of wiping out 10+ Railgun equipped Mammoth tanks by itself. Avatars, Tripods and Mammoth Tanks get destroyed within mere seconds. It is also capable of defeating the other epic units in 1 on 1 combats. (Assuming both are fully upgraded when the battle takes place.)Not forgetting the fact that once you have it, you won't need to rely on Harvesters.

The Redeemer, when fully upgraded with 2 Black Hand troopers and is at Hero Rank, deals 3 Hit KOs on Upgraded Tripods, Avatars and Mammoth Tanks. But in terms of Fire Power, it's no where as near as MARV's. Its Rage Generator however, presents it as a Formidable Threat in large battles. It is sad to say however, that the Redeemer is the weakest among the three when all are fully upgraded.

The Eradicator Hexapod is the most versatile among the three, capable of immense AOE destruction once you upgrade it with 2 or 3 Shock Troopers and 1 Prodigy/Mastermind. It's effective against anything in the game. But then again, in terms of Damage output, it is slighty weaker than that of MARV's. It's also worthwhile to note that it destroys units more efficiently then the other epic units when it comes to crushing lesser units. The Eradicator Hexapod when fully upgraded is actually stronger than a Redeemer and is also the fastest Epic Unit thanks to the Blink ability.

Having said so much, it is important to note that the Epic units do have clear advantages over different aspects. The MARV is effectively the strongest unit in land battles when fully upgraded and is also the Ultimate Resource Gatherer, which indirectly translates into bigger armies for the player who has it. The Redeemer is the Utimate Support in battle thanks to its Rage Generator that turns devestating Railguns on each other. The Eradicator Hexapod, like its name suggests, is the most versatile unit in combat as it covers everything.

However, if you guys were talking about battles for Epic units who aren't upgraded(Garrisoned with Infantry), I've also done some testing and found out that the Redeemer in this case is stronger than the other two. The Marv comes in second with the Eradicator Hexapod being the last thanks to it poor accuracy. But then again, it's not too much a difference as the any one of them is left with little HP after it defeats either one of the other Epic units. The other Epic units however, make up for this loss with more garrison pods than the Redeemer. It's the number of Garrison Pods that actually determine which is stronger in the end. The Redeemer has 2, the Eradicator Hexapod has 3 and the MARV has 4.

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:13 PM

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