Edited by blue4n, 22 March 2008 - 07:05 PM.
boarding parties
#3
Posted 23 March 2008 - 02:10 AM
Well why would it have been cut...hmm?
Yeah, there are so many variables in the way of coding boarding parties that I don't think it's possible.
Edited by Kacen, 23 March 2008 - 02:11 AM.
#7
Posted 24 March 2008 - 10:14 PM
Plus, if you lose an Executor-class to a boarding party, that's your own damn fault. The thing has 5,000 weapons hardpoints.
#9
Posted 25 March 2008 - 03:17 PM
It would require a LOT more troops to take an Executor-/Sovereign-class than anything else. That's the balance issue. It would require more troops as the ship class got bigger and/or better.
Plus, if you lose an Executor-class to a boarding party, that's your own damn fault. The thing has 5,000 weapons hardpoints.
Theoretically, yes it would. However, if Chewie's boarding ability was transplanted into space combat, it would be impossible to code it so that it requires a different number of troops based on ship class. I somewhat agree with StormReavan in that the best way to do it would be based on Zann's bribery ability. This would allow you to simulate having to commit more troops for bigger ships. Also, the boarding unit should disappear after this was done, to prevent it from taking over multiple ships. A good unit would be the gamma-class assault shuttle.
#10
Posted 27 March 2008 - 11:43 PM
To keep boarding ships from using the ability over and over again, just set their recharge on the special ability to a really high value, longer than a battle would last.
But of course, that wouldn't allow tag-teaming of boarding ships, grouping up to take on larger ships...
#11
Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:25 AM
#12
Posted 30 March 2008 - 02:15 AM
Bribe as a hero ability was overpowered. Putting it on mass-producable ships, if even considered, would have to be done with some serious caution and massive limitations. It would have to be something you weren't sure you even wanted to use - like pretty much every other ship in the game. Good in a niche, but not good in 75% of situations (which is why we balance and mix our fleets).
That's why I'm suggesting it be limited to smaller ships only. But I'm sure there's other and perhaps better ways of doing it. But whatever the idea, the limitations have to be major if there's to be any hope of the idea floating.
#13
Posted 30 March 2008 - 06:53 PM
1) Have different sized boarding craft; Class 1 can take over corvettes, 2 can take frigates and corvettes, etc. Possibly take out the exit vehicle ability on the captured entry
2) Find out if the boarding ability works on squadrons. Then you could make so that only the boarding groups can take over the larger ships
#15
Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:52 AM
#16
Posted 01 April 2008 - 03:08 AM
Except for the fact that you need to tone that down to about 300,000. I'm sure if they squeeze people in for some stupid reason or another, and ration their supplies, they could manage 750,000 at the most, but that's a stretch. Two million is too high.Boarding and capturing an Executor with it's ~2 million crew should be anything but automatic, nor could any price be fair for making it automatic.
#17
Posted 01 April 2008 - 08:17 AM
Except for the fact that you need to tone that down to about 300,000. I'm sure if they squeeze people in for some stupid reason or another, and ration their supplies, they could manage 750,000 at the most, but that's a stretch. Two million is too high.Boarding and capturing an Executor with it's ~2 million crew should be anything but automatic, nor could any price be fair for making it automatic.
yea 2 mil is a person per meter (if it's 2 kilo also why are all star wars thing in metric and not customary every once in awhile?)
#19
Posted 02 April 2008 - 07:01 PM
Except for the fact that you need to tone that down to about 300,000. I'm sure if they squeeze people in for some stupid reason or another, and ration their supplies, they could manage 750,000 at the most, but that's a stretch. Two million is too high.Boarding and capturing an Executor with it's ~2 million crew should be anything but automatic, nor could any price be fair for making it automatic.
yea 2 mil is a person per meter (if it's 2 kilo also why are all star wars thing in metric and not customary every once in awhile?)
It's not. The use of metric dates back to (I believe) the old WEG RPG. Also, the Executor is 19 km long, or 19,000 meters long. The total compement, crew and troops, is likely around 500,000. Still, to board it, you wouldn't have to take out every one of those people. If the bridge was siezed, then the whole ship is captured. And actually, it is canon for Executors to be boardable. In Before the Storm, the Yevetha boarded the Intimidator, and took it over meerly by capturing the main and auxiliary bridges, going so far as to fire the guns.
#20
Posted 03 April 2008 - 02:55 AM
The Pride of the Yevetha take-over was not technically a boarding. They were pretty much already aboard, and had schematics for, and access to, the areas mentioned due to extensive time spent maintenancing it.
Edited by Tropical Bob, 03 April 2008 - 02:57 AM.
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