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#41 Tropical Bob

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 10:29 PM

You might not, but somebody else would. You might not use only them, but a couple of cheap units protecting them will make it a cheap way to take out enemies. The only use I can see for it is for some heroes that don't get upgrades. An example is Sate Pestage. His upgrade would give him an escort of, say an Acclamator, a Nebulon-B and a CR 90. However, you wouldn't want to send him into combat, because he's too valuable to risk.

That's why it's just a modification to my own files. :wink_new:

#42 Kaleb Graff

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 02:33 PM

That's fine. The point is, it would be a mistake for general release, espically with a powerful escort.

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 07:15 PM

That's why I commented the tag out of the files I uploaded.

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 07:28 PM

Good. I can understand why you want to do this, but not everyone plays fair in the game. (That is to say, some people take advantage of any loopholes they can find, and powerful escorts are a huge loophole.)

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 09:47 PM

Indeed they are.

Mainly I included an escort for my Executor because the Star Dreadnaughts are extremely unwieldy, so I'm gonna need something that I can move around if the enemy doesn't come at me...

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Posted 17 May 2008 - 10:34 PM

Indeed they are.

Mainly I included an escort for my Executor because the Star Dreadnaughts are extremely unwieldy, so I'm gonna need something that I can move around if the enemy doesn't come at me...

That is a good point. You would have to increase the price, though.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 02:56 AM

I think the 249k price level and 3k build time is enough.

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 05:08 PM

I think the 249k price level and 3k build time is enough.

Increase the price, because of the extra ships, and the fact that they will regenerate if destroyed.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 08:16 PM

wow cool, good job bob!

But since mine doesnt have the Immortal since its not very canon I'll just change all the immortal names to Exactor.


But heres another idea; Since the Devestator was Vader's actual flagship before the executor should we replace the immortal with the Devestator?

Don't bother. The immortal is a good stepping stone to the Executor.

But also a non-canon one. I think it should be changed to Devestator.

Apologies for reviving an old thread, but I just happened upon it in searching and realized that I never responded.

The Immortal as a Praetor is implicit canon, opposed to the kind of explicit canon that they stick to on Wookieepedia. Let me back up a bit though.

The Praetor-class Star Battlecruiser has no official appearance at first glance and very little is known about it, but what we do know is important: a derelict Praetor's reactor was used to power Echo Base and hold off bombardment by the Executor, when the ISD-powered Massassi Base could not. So we're dealing with a big Imperial ship here, and it's not likely that the Rebellion ran into too many of those just lying around. Significantly, it's known that they did run into exactly one during this timeframe. This makes it highly likely that Crimson Jack's battlecruiser was, in fact, a Praetor-class. So that puts name with appearance.

If you're familiar with the early Marvel comics, you'll know that Vader had a similar ship. There are some cosmetic differences, but given how they drew ships from the movies, they can easily be attributed to artistic license. That establishes that Vader at least used a Praetor-class for some amount of time.

The last part is the biggest stretch. Every ship needs a name, and this is no exception. Even casual fans should know that the Imperial-class Star Destroyer that appeared at the beginning of ANH was the Devastator. Interestingly, Star Wars: X-wing refers to this ship as the Immortal. Sixteen years later, this still hasn't been reconciled.

My "P-canon" retcon is that Vader's Praetor from Marvel is named the Immortal, and is the flagship of the armada to which Devastator belongs. So why does Vader show up on the Devastator in ANH instead of the Immortal? Kuati battlecruisers from the Clone Wars era, as the Praetor is, are incredibly slow; totally insufficient for pursuing a blockade runner going full tilt! Vader had to transfer his flag to the Devastator in order to chase down the Death Star plans on the Tantive IV.

That should explain everything. I realize it's not officially sanctioned, and thus easily misconstruable with fanon, but you can believe what you want.



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