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#21 MorrisB

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 09:17 AM

"Hope is the last thing to die."
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So true. We will die earlier :D

Oh yeah, the campaign... well, the maps those were done for that purpose will b e cool to play even as Skirmish maps (better than nothing, aye ?). However... lycan told us a way to get the coding done for campaign maps, but it's a long process... not all hope is lost for scripted campaign maps, but we can consider about them only later when we have much free time.
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 09:07 PM

map.ini's are good, and fun, but can be annoying, not work for the smallest of reasons (changing projectile in warhead blah blah blah) and are limiting

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:50 PM

map.ini's are good, and fun, but can be annoying, not work for the smallest of reasons (changing projectile in warhead blah blah blah) and are limiting


Regular ini is much the same. As a wise man(by which I don't remember who) once said, "60% of coding is debugging". It's not that it's some mystical fancy language you need to be trained in, but that one unit can have at LEAST five dependent files and a single out of place letter or typo can bring the entire program down to a flaming end.

That's why I specialised in modelling. :/
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:32 AM

When you know map.ini very well its limits are almost endless when it comes to what you can do with whats in game files.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 08:03 AM

Hehehehehehehehe.

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Thanks for the advice.

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 02:58 PM

hey i haven't been posting here in a while but i've been checking the topics, and i like that idea of starting heroes. but maybe instead of having to make up heroes, why not use other "smaller characters" from LOTR. Like for MOTW, you could make Beregond, and give him like 3-4 powers, for Isengard and Mordor, i'm sure there are orcs and uruks mentioned who could serve this purpose. For the elves and dwarves, same situation. The only tough ones might be Angmar (just a goblin maybe), Dorwinion (just make one up), and Evil Men.
But the basis for a starter hero could be something like this:
HERO NAME
1st power: a weak sort of Leadership for units
2nd power: some sort of stat boosting power
3rd power: a speed boosting power (for scouting)
4th power: a unique power to each hero; not too powerful
^and the powers dont need to be recieved in that order
Revive Cost: 1000-1500

An example:
Beregond
Level 1: Guard of the Citadel- give 25% damage and armor to nearby infantry (passive)
Level 3: Hasten to the Defenses- gives nearby units 40% speed
Level 6: Ready for Battle- Beregond gains 50% armor and 50% damage
Level 8: Machines of the White City- summons 2 trebuchets to the battle
Revive Cost: 1400

I can come up with more if u like, but that's just what i think the starting heroes (if implemented), should be like :)

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 03:00 PM

oops i guess i was a guest :)
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#28 mike_

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 03:36 PM

Actually, Angmar can have some excellent heroes, if the team wants to do some looking around.
Here's what I mean:
-Chieftan of the Hillmen of Rhudaur
-Chieftan of the Hill Trolls
-Chieftan of the Barrow-Wights
Yes...all Chieftans, eh :) That seems to work best for Angmar, IMO.
Also...I picture Dul Guldor as being the "protege" to Angmar, ie the heart of sorcery in Middle-earth. So, in my mind, when Angmar was destroyed all of the sorcerous and ancient evils that had gathered there just...roamed Middle-earth until the Necromancer (and later, Khamul) came to power in Dul Guldor. What does this mean? All sorts of baddies could be open the Angmar faction - vampires, werewolves, giant bats, etc. However, this may be pushing canonicity - but that's all a matter of opinion.

Cheers,
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Edited by elfhelm.., 26 April 2008 - 03:47 PM.


#29 Kyross

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 07:40 PM

We aren't doing starting heroes, but Beregond has been looked at as a summonable hero.

Angmar already has a Hillmen chieftain(Hwaldar) and a wight hero(Karsh) and a troll leader(Rogash). Have you ever looked at their hero list?

All factions will have a full hero list for v4, don't worry.

Edited by Kyross, 26 April 2008 - 07:41 PM.

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#30 mike_

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 08:17 PM

Not in full, no. I was just suggesting those that came to mind when I think of heroes for Angmar.

Edited by elfhelm.., 26 April 2008 - 08:18 PM.





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