Let's take a moment to take in a huge puff from the doobie called The Far Left. The hypocrisy of thier thinking is fucking staggering. I'll make a few points here as to not bore you all.
Too late on that last point. I groaned as soon as I saw the topic title as I thought 'Who posted this particular thread, I wonder?' The hypocrisy of right-wing thinking is equally staggering. Claiming every poor man has an opportunity while simultaneously preventing him from reaching it. Take the Middle East and its oil. You claim to be giving them a chance at prosperity by freeing up the oil market while undercutting the deal by making sure they give US top priority and allowing the US to name the price they want to pay. That's the business equivalent of holding a midget at arms length while proceeding to kick him in the bollocks. He really doesn't have a fair crack of the whip, yet the right-winger, the end of whose nose is the farthest possible distance his eyes can focus on, either cannot see, or does not care what lies beyond the end of his nose.
Liberals/Athiests- Some of the most hypocritical. Campaign to stop and keep from drilling Anwar in Alaska (google it), yet say nothing when the Chinese are drilling off the coast of the Florida Keys tapping our local oil supply in international waters.
International waters. Fair game. And I imagine that were those campaigners aware of such, they might say something about it. Even if they are, I would argue that matters a little closer to home are a bit more pertinent to them, or that they feel they might have a chance of doing something about. It's not the fact of oil being drilled they're bothered about, but the ecosystem in which the drilling is taking place. Should some cunt strike oil in the middle of the rainforest you might get a similar response to drilling attempts. What you're saying here is that the earth upon which we live, and the environments in which I imagine many of the campaigners live, is insignificant next to the interests of corporations.
Athiests actually have the time to hire lawyers to stop nativity scenes on the lawn of the local town hall yet do nothing about chartered mosque/schools that violate seperation of church and state.
Yeah, because they know they won't get arrested for racism or Islamophobia that way. Basically, they aren't allowed to protest against anything muslims want. Ever. Because if they do, they'll be arrested for it. And bear in mind that your generalisation here seems to imply that all atheists want the nativity scenes to stop. I, and many other atheists like me, couldn't give a monkey's either way. To the point I agree with you on principle, but the first person to hire a lawyer to try to stop islamic schools will be arrested. I guarantee it. But don't pretend for one second that every atheist is the same as these ones, any more than every Christian is a bible-thumping bigot or every Muslim is a fundamentalist woman-oppressing zealot. A significant enough majority to piss everyone else off, I'll grant you, but not all, and not most.
Don't you people have jobs and shit to attend to? Athiests are a "New Religion." It's the religion of the Godless, Prophets of Naught. Stop doing the bully pulpit preaching. Your attempts to convert are as pathetic as any bible thumper.
Let's not get into 'I'm rubber, you're glue' territory here. We really are descending into childish games of 'your bad's bigger than our bad'. Some atheists might be hypocritical enough to form their own church and preach godlessness, but even they aren't using scaremongery or fear to bully people into their fold. An atheist, regardless of his level of hypocritical zeal, may point and laugh and ridicule the believer, but it's impossible for him to scare or attempt to convert. There is no fear around an atheists' heart to hold him to his path.
Socialsts- They shout "stop tax breaks for huge companies!" Yet do not understand companies don't buy stupid shit for the sake of buying stupid shit like people do. They reinvest in the company and hire more people and then those people have more jobs. Duh!
Are you that naive as to believe that every single cent of corporate tax break is going back into the company? If it was, no company would be making any sort of profit, ever, but even the biggest, dribbliest lowest-IQ retard could tell you that isn't the case. Why else do prices for the consumer go up? If companies invested even a fiftieth (2%) of their profit into sustainable resources, recycling and improvement of their technologies to make them more environmentally friendly, not only would you shut every single eco-weenie out there up, the world'd be in a better state of play as a rule and socialists might not be quite so opposed to the tax break as they'd know the money was being funnelled to more practical and useful pursuits.
Gays- Most Americans have no issue with you having the same rights as married people. Simply don't change the definition of the word marriage. Make up your own name like black people made up thier own holiday to replace white mans Christmas. No one argued with that.
You all were smart enough to define the difference between a "top" and a "bottom." Find a new word to describe what you want. Don't call it marriage. For us straight people it's like calling a circle a square.
The fuck does this have to do with left/right? Who even cares what they call it? Why do you care? It's such a piddling minuscule issue it's not even worth the headspace. Though I must say you got righteously slammed about your racist view of Christmas. And I'm sorry, but it was racist, regardless of what you say.
I'm just right of center and have to scratch my head on FAAAR left people. They are the protectors of the people yet are the most violent protesters against freedom of speech. They throw pies at conservative speakers on campuses. I don't see the reverse being true.
This coming from he who wished to violate Rattus' (welcome back, btw, Rattus) freedom of speech? I admit as pisstakes go, you got burned, but pretty much every point he's made has been rational and valid. That's more than can be said for most of your generalisations and sweeping statements. Such as that all left-wingers throw pies at right-wingers or are into the idea of censorship. It's bullshit.
The left won. You can pick from Obama (far left), Clinton (left of center), or McCain (right of center)
Mightily good thing, too. Another run with a Bushite would have been cataclysmic for the US economy as much as anyone else's. Even a right-winger could admit that.
What are you all so pissed off about? Your hijacking of the US education system was a complete success and is now producing some of the stupidest, least educated, and close minded people on the planet.
Got any sources for this? Both for the claim that the evil leftist redshirts have taken over the US education system, and that the education system has got worse
since the education system fell to the hands of the Dark Lord Darth Commie than it was under previous administrations, to such a degree that you can prove unequivocally that it was the fault of Darth Commie and not just the fact that people are getting stupider, as they are in the UK? Yes, I'll concur that education is degenerating. I don't believe it's the fault of any left-winger as you seem to purvey.
1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
Bullshit. I am pro-capital punishment and don't really much care about abortion either way.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
Both create oppression, but governments
should be there to create prosperity. So too should businesses. How this is a hypocrisy I'm not quite sure, unless you're insinuating that the two are one and the same.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law- abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
No more of a threat than US weapons technology in the hands of Americans. I am personally in support of guns. It's nuclear weapons I'm against.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
WTF? Perhaps you could clarify this so I can refute it properly.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by documented cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
Present me some evidence to the contrary. And even if the 'la-la-la, I'm not listening' paradigm of climate change proves to be correct, surely it's better to err on the side of caution?
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
Um, what? The hell does this have to do with anything? Gender roles (male = breadwinner, female = homemaker) are evolutionarily natural as far as the human race is concerned (historically, this has always been the case, purely because from an animalistic point of view the female must bear and rear young, the male provide for her so she can. I'm not being sexist - just look at your anatomy to see the sense in it), gender stereotypes are artificial. Homosexual is natural. Or, perhaps you think it isn't.
7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
Okay, NOW I know you're clutching at straws. We all know how it's spread. It's that nobody's trying to cure it that confounds me.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified
to teach those same kids about sex.
You are implying that the teacher is inexperienced in sex?
Anyway, if they're qualified to teach, they're qualified to teach sex. If they're crap teachers, they shouldn't be teaching. What's hard about that?
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
Well, if they did care, why are they killing animals needlessly and without bothering to make use of what they kill? And who's to say those San Franciscans aren't allowed to care about the environment? Just because they live in a city doesn't mean they are (or have any right to be) blinkered from global concerns...
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
What sort of bullshit is this you're spinning? How exactly is this the case that left-wingers believe that?
11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion of the Christ" for financial gain only.
And I would care why he spent $25m to make that film...why?
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
Not every left-winger lives in the United States, dude. And people are entitled to their own opinion of separate organisations, the constitution, and what both organisations and constitution stand for.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
Um, no...both are way too high. 'Nuff said.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.
More bullshit from the bullshit factory.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
Well, I certainly don't believe that. I agree with you that racial quota-ing is racist. I wouldn't know about the American Standardised Test tho.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
Can't say as I would know, therefore I wouldn't pass judgement. One doesn't have to be a socialist to think that or not. Thinking it doesn't make one socialist, not thinking it doesn't prohibit one from being so.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
How is this a hypocrisy? Although it is very true. They haven't been. US democracy hasn't been working right lately because the wrong people have been in charge. It's not so different.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.
Um, what? Bush is a liar. Every right-winger seems to be glad he's there. Every politician is a liar. And Clinton got kicked out for his sex offence thing. What's the big deal?
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
Very few people would agree with that last point. Or bestiality. Although I presume you believe the opposite. I'll let your words rebuke you for me.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States .
Um, if it's illegal, it's illegal. What are we even arguing about? I imagine there's plenty of illegal Republican Party funding going on too, we just haven't heard about it yet.
21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
Nah. One half of it is you spouting off, the other half is misinformed bullshit, and all of it is designed to lead us to believe that Darth Commie will come and enslave us all if we give people a bit of civil liberty and cut the common man a bit of slack here and there.
22. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the day off on Christmas Day but it's not okay to say "Merry Christmas."
I'm an atheist. I say merry christmas every christmas. Who cares? That's what it is. It's Christmas, whether I'm atheist or christian. It's Christmas. And I wholeheartedly agree that anyone who cares to try and make it PC is a dickhead.
23. You have to believe that the terrorists fighting and killing Americans in the Middle East are freedom fighters and that the U. S. Armed Forces in theater are the real terrorists.
Terrorists are terrorists. People who want you out of their country so they can run it independently are freedom fighters. The US Armed Forces stationed out there are oppressors.
I thank Rattus wholeheartedly for his post immediately after that one. Hostile, not only do you see atheism and left-wingness as being the same thing, when in fact they are two discrete issues. Further, not every atheist or left-winger believes those things you say. You're every bit as bad as the so-called preachers you deride in that post.
I was going to quote a few more posts, but for now I just felt like bringing this back on-issue rather than let Hostile and Rattus discuss the rather touchy issue of Hostile's new girlfriend any further, heh.
