Has anybody thought of adding the druedain as a summon? It wouldn't seem as weird for them to pop right out on the map b/c they were stealthier than hobbits. They had a lot of weird magic powers. Read the UT for more info.
Druedain
Started by {IP} Aridor, Jun 26 2008 09:40 PM
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 03:40 AM
It was mentioned...I think inn was the final conclusion.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 02:08 PM
I think it'd be better to outline what they should be able to do, how they'd fight, all that jazz before we decide on how they'll enter the battlefield.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:16 PM
Well they were extremely stealthy, used arrows with poison and have a greater hatred of orcs than any other creature. They could sit totally still for days. They also could make satutes that were some how connected to them and could come alive. This some extremely cool things you could do with them.
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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:27 PM
Yeah, we've discussed them in the Rohan Topic. I think they'd work pretty well as a Summon for Rohan.
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 09:17 PM
In my opinion, they should replace the Rohan Elven Warriors, they make no sense.
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three times three.
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over the flowing sea?
Seven stars and seven stones
and one white tree.'
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:35 PM
Rohan Elven Warriors are there because of the The Two Towers and as a way of showing of the Alliance between Elves and Men.
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:51 PM
yeah, but they never really went to Helm's Deep. That's a Perter Jackson's invension
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three times three.
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and one white tree.'
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:56 PM
And uruks never had crossbows, that was pj's invention too...
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 11:03 PM
WETA's, actually. Hehe.
But yes, I agree.
But yes, I agree.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 04:23 AM
Yeah but Elven Warriors were in the original BFME to include some sort of elven units in the game. Now that there is an entire faction, they are not necessary anymore. Why do we want Elves in Rohan wich don't belong there when we have the Elven Faction? We can add any kind of unit that is lore accurate and we would not only respect Tolkien's work, but also add diversity to the game.
Edited by tomy, 29 June 2008 - 04:27 AM.
'Tall ships and tall kings
three times three.
What brought they from the foundered land
over the flowing sea?
Seven stars and seven stones
and one white tree.'
three times three.
What brought they from the foundered land
over the flowing sea?
Seven stars and seven stones
and one white tree.'
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 04:26 AM
I disagree, their role is advanced infantry/archer. Their range is good with the bow, to remove them I would think put Rohan at a disadvantage.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 08:43 AM
why disadvantege ? we are speaking here about druedains. And i think thoose guys sound more powerfull than thoose Rohan elfes. Poison arrows, summon some weird statue, stealth, good range.
I think this is clear whos better.
I like them to be summanble, but if they are to replace Rohans elfs, im not against it ( but then no summon, need another idea )
I think this is clear whos better.
I like them to be summanble, but if they are to replace Rohans elfs, im not against it ( but then no summon, need another idea )
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 03:14 PM
They never fought for rohan in books or films.
Elves fought for rohan in the films.
The closest thing to lore that druedain would do would be to reveal the map for you...
Elves fought for rohan in the films.
The closest thing to lore that druedain would do would be to reveal the map for you...
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 05:22 PM
Or stealth nearby allies.. 
Edited by mike_, 29 June 2008 - 05:22 PM.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 06:04 PM
Why do we want Elves in Rohan wich don't belong there when we have the Elven Faction?
Why have Men in the Rohan faction when they might belong in the Gondor faction or vice versa? Just because they're of the same species doesn't mean they fight for the same side.
And as Yoda previously stated, the Elves fit to the films, the Druedain to neither film nor books.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 06:39 PM
soo WHY dont you even want them as summon, or better to say ROHAN summon . . . . when as you all stated, they didnt fight with them in movies nor books
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 07:05 PM
we want them as a summon because htey appear in the books, just not as a fighting ally. that doesnt mean they didnt help...
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 09:40 PM
They didn't fight side by side with the rohirrim, but they did fight for them! They attacked an army of orcs searching for the rohirrim with poison darts and arrows. If the rohirrim met the orcs, they would have arrived at Minas Tirith with heavy losses and the battle might have been very different
'Tall ships and tall kings
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Seven stars and seven stones
and one white tree.'
three times three.
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Posted 29 June 2008 - 10:00 PM
well thats what i meant by a them not being a fighting ally; they never fought next to the rohirrim in battle, but still fought orcs when they got the chance.
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