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#1 MSpencer

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:51 PM

I've decided I'd like to keep track of all these crazy things the neocons say, specifically about war, World War III, terrorism, Iran, pre-emptive strikes, and shock and awe. I think by not having a list like this, we all slipped up back in 2003, and I think now more than ever we really need to keep track of what people are saying in Washington. I'll keep this post updated and post below that I've added more.

Starting from early June:

1. Daniel Pipes (Link)
Specifically on the topic of Iran:

What I suspect will be the case is, should the Democratic nominee win in November, President Bush will do something. And should it be Mr. McCain that wins, he'll punt, and let McCain decide what to do.

In other words, if you vote for Barack Obama this November and he wins, George Bush will flip and start World War III.

2. Bill Kristol and Chris Wallace, Faux News (Link)

KRISTOL: I think honestly, if the president felt John McCain were going to be the next president he would think it more appropriate to let the next president make that decision than do it on his way out. I do wonder with Sen. Obama, if president Bush thinks Sen, Obama win does he somehow think that, does he worry that Obama won't follow through on the policy…

WALLACE: So, you're suggesting that he might in fact, if Obama's going to win the election, either before or after the election—launch a military strike?

KRISTOL: I don't know. I think he would worry about it. On the other hand, you can't, it's hard to make foreign policy based on guesses about election results...

Self-explanatory. If Obama wins, George wants to make sure Iran as a threat is completely nullified. Instead of allowing the President elect to have a say in this, it would be a far more reasonable if he spent his last two months in office bombing Iran with what's left of the US military. Hey, the Air Force and the Navy are doing fine (Except for enlistment being down... massively, and funding being diverted to the Army and public corruption in Iraq).

3. John Bolton (Link)

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton believes Israel will stage a raid against Iran's nuclear facilities if Democratic nominee Barack Obama wins the upcoming presidential election in November.

Bolton, often labeled a resolute neo-conservative, believes the Israeli attack would take place sometime between the day after Obama's win and his inauguration on January 20 of next year.

We all know the US had something to do with the Osirak raid, and if for some reason, Obama wins, we're going to help them launch another one?


More to come, no doubt.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:33 PM

All I got to say is: What the fuck?
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:39 PM

I had not thought of the prospect of bombing Iran based on the US election, but stranger things have happened. If it happened I'm sure it would be to start trouble while someone in power can start it to keep the ball rolling.

I'm mixed on it, the last thing I want is more bombing. But sitting around watching Iran enriching more uranium that it needs in forms it doesn't really need. Well it is what it appears to be.

I've done some research on the materials they are manufacturing and it doesn't relate to thier needs. Maybe if they didn't continue to make outlandish claims against Israel. Than maybe Israel wouldn't be so trigger happy.

Iran says: We're gonna wipe Israel off the map and we're also gonna enrich alot of uranium. If I was Israel I'd be alittle scared. They aren't that big, it wouldn't require much to wipe them out.

Combine that with Iran's religious government waiting for the "last Imam, the 13th Imam" one might ask what their true intentions are.

One might also wonder what would happen if US/NATO bitched slapped Iran hard in one clean slap. Knock it off it's axis and see what happens. Invading it is out of the question. It might cause regime change on it's own. It might also piss alot of people off.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 12:20 AM

The US is also not in good shape for another war, there having enough trouble with Iraq and Afghanistan.
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