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[some_weirdGuy]

what about calling them Jihad? jihad is a cool name for middle eastern terrorist groups

[True Lord of Chaos]

I agree. Also, it would be a reference to the second chapter of your RP.

[FallenDwarf]

You could call it "Allahs Army". Sounds cool.
How are you going to make that side? Using soviet buildings on a islamic side looks lame and fake.

[Apollo]

Then you gotta adjust lighting of a lot things if you really want realism fully as light is normally set to cartoony levels.

Hmmmm, sound interesting! How do I? Is something to do with InfantryExtraLight and stuff?

Yes, then you got the buildings that have been rendered very bright so could use ExtraLight=-200 or something in their art settings but this may cause lag unless you wanna edit every building art, civilian & sides instead.

Of course Terrain is just as bad, so you got your work ahead of you.

not only that you are showcasing pictures of debris filled screens trying show off but most better coders know DAMN WELL that it makes game LAG BAD!

If you've got a lame PC, yes. No, just kidding! Actually, the game slowed down, but far less than I had expexted. Not more than if you place lots of buildings with ActiveAnims into your screen. It is still playable. But, actually, I'm still working on the code (after all, this mod is just taking its first steps), and you won't see these problems in the release.

You will only notice it truly well in online tests.

and Jihad, thats Holy war AFAIK so not too sure on that name lol

Edited by Apollo, 30 September 2008 - 11:00 AM.

[Allied General]

and Jihad, thats Holy war AFAIK so not too sure on that name lol

dictionary jihad

1. a holy war undertaken as a sacred duty by Muslims.
2. any vigorous, emotional crusade for an idea or principle.

[NCoder]

How are you going to make that side? Using soviet buildings on a islamic side looks lame and fake.

I'm ripping and resizing from Age Of Empires II and Empire Earth - but of course, that makes the buildings look outdated. Still, it works for Barracks, and a little edit work even got me a war factory. Of course, this is really not so good. Maybe someone knows good resources?

Sides / Countries:
Allies - USA, European Union, Asian Alliance
Soviet - Russian Federation, China, Latin Confederation
'Brotherhood' - Arab Union, Iran, African Empire

USA
Gets Paratroops and veteran Marine.

Europeans
Western Europe except for Switzerland. Get veteran spawned aircraft (from Carrier and Destroyer)

Asian Alliance
This is Allied side asian nations - India, South Korea, Thailand, Philippines, Nepal and also Oceania in one House. Get veteran fighter aircraft (Harrier and Stealth).

Russia
This counts as all nations with slavic influence, also the central asian republics. Gets veteran submarines.

China
This is not only China, but also all sinic nation of Asia, which are not Allied - China, Mongolia, North Korea, Myanmar, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia.
China's special is not yet defined.

Latin Confederation
This is latin american socialist nations - Cuba, Columbia, Venezuela.

Arab Union
This are the Arab states from Yemen in South, through Saudi Arabia, to Iraq in the North. It is bordered by the Mediterranean in the west and the Persians (Iran) in the east.

African Empire
This is Maghrib (north Africa), and also Nigeria, Somalia and all African nation with majority islamic.

Iran
This is Iran like we know it.

Edited by NCoder, 06 October 2008 - 08:57 PM.

[NCoder]

Allies

Specialized: Air, Sea

USA


This is like real-life US. The special power of the USA is its focus on landing operations. The US will produce transport helicopters and Landing Craft as veterans. They can also drop Paratroopers, like in original RA2. On the downside, US gets less income from every harvester delivery.

European Union

Flag happen to be a bit big, I will change:

This is the European Union as it is known from real life, so propably, I don't need to fill y'all in on it, because is easy, you can look on wikipedia if you really care...!

European Union's special power is its technological development in aircraft and missile technology (Airbus, Eurofighters). Aircraft produced in the European Union will be produced as veterans (but not helicopters). Also, AEGIS Cruisers and Missile Boats are produced as Veterans. The Union can also produce ground vehicles with better armor and speed. On the downside, infantry is a little more expensive for the EU, because it have so low birth rates.

Asian Alliance


Asian Alliance flag (concept, will still get those ray-like stripes like on the rl flag of Imperial Japan, emitted by the red circle on the left, and those symbols from the Korean flag).

The Asian Alliance is one of the new houses of my mod, belonging to the Allies. It consits of:

• India
• Japan
• South Korea
• Thailand
• Singapore
• Philippines
• Taiwan (territorial dispute w China)

with political and military importance descending from the top of the list to the bottom. It was founded in response to China's rise in the 1990's and throught the first decade of the 21st century. As China began to extend its productive forces and political influence on its neighbours, replacing Russia as the dominant Soviet nation, the remaining westernized democracies of Asia, arranged around southern and eastern seaboards of Asia, formed the Asian Alliance to protect their interests.

The special power of the Asian Alliance is its heavy investment in naval power, especially in naval aircraft, which has long replaced the conventional artillery of GWWII's Allied Cruisers as mean of long-range power projection. The AA's fleet of Destroyers and Aircraft Carriers is famed for its efficient naval aircraft.
(All spawned aircraft is spawned as Veterans)

(This is new special, taking form European Union. European Union will instead get veteran normal aircraft, originally intend for AA.)

Also, Asian Alliance can produce cheaper buildings.

I have not yet have an idea for a debuff for the Alliance.

Soviet

Specialized: Ground forces

Russian Federation

Russian Federation can build Veteran APOCALYPSE TANKS. Also, all Russian vehicles have greater firepower and armor.

China

China can build Veteran FLAME TANKS. Chinese also get cheaper infantry, and more powerful walls.

Latin Confederation

Latin Confederation can build Veteran T-34 TANKS for their jungle warfare. Aslo, all Latin Confederation units have faster rate of fire, and greater speed.

Brotherhood

Specialized: Infantry

Arab Union
Arab union can train veteran TERRORISTS. This is especially good because, since they self-destruct, terrorist will never attain Veteran or Elite status by training. Veteran Terrorists can become invisible to enemy units (only when they have sensors, they can see them), and also plant C4 on buildings instead of suicide bombing and also self-heal.

African Empire
Idiom says that "in the African Empire, a child learns to fire an AK-74 before it learns to walk". Bear this truth or not, fact is that early training undoubtedly has a positive impact on the quality of African Empire's soldiers, so that the Empire trains its PARTISANS (basic Brotherhood infantry) as Veterans.

Iran
Iran can train veteran SNIPERS.

Edited by NCoder, 11 October 2008 - 10:44 PM.

[some_weirdGuy]

and Jihad, thats Holy war AFAIK so not too sure on that name lol

yeah, i know, thats kinda the point.

[NCoder]

New stolen tech unit - Delta Force
(Allies steal Allied tech, replaces former "Ghost" concept)
The Delta Force can:

• Kill enemy infantry with one stab & disguise as the soldier they have killed.
• Use a light machine gun against buildings and vehicles to do moderate damage.
• Deploy and use a laserpointer to call in a cruise missile strike. It will take some time for the Delta Force until he can undeploy or fire any other weapon, so he will be defenseless while waiting for the strike. You should always send some other forces for protection.

[True Lord of Chaos]

The delta force cameo isn't very good. You should redo it.

[NCoder]

- Pavement:


- Since vr. 0.9 AI uses ALL the new unit in own taskforces!

- New Allied unit Abrams Tank


- Soviet Terror Drone is now "Sentry Drone". It can detect cloaked units and has a machine gun against infantry.

- Misc changes to Ver. 09:

• Missile Boat is now soviet unit
• Added custom particle system for Black Apocalypse's railgun to ensure damage is done to infantry along the line of fire, while the tank will actually not use the railguns against infantry. (will use Gattling instead)
• Added Flamethrower, reintroduced Tesla Trooper, added Tesla Vanguard and Tesla Commando (for when soviet steals Allied Tech).
• Elite Cadre, Molotov now uses different cameos (same as flamethrower). Black Guard uses different cameo. Cyborg Molotov, which is different unit, is new soviet hero. Weapon of Elite Cadre now use by Flamethrower, while Elite Cadre has stronger weapon (half-way between Flamer and Molotov's flame cannon).
• Will remove Rocket Soldier from soviets and replace totally by Tank Hunter for anti-ground, and reintroduce Flak Trooper for anti-air. Rocket soldiers are now solely allies infantry.
• The EMP Mine, which disables any vehicle driving onto it. The Mine will slowly take damage while disabling the vehicle, and after some time, it will be destroy. The vehicle will then be set free.
• The Practice Target, which is buildable and can be targeted by your units to promote them.
• Fighter jet that can actually fire at aircraft.
• Neutral buildigns: Zoo, Armory, Power Plant, Sensor Array, Tech Center.
• New types of spawnable missiles! Without RockPatch! The only bug to this is that they become unstoppable when within some cells of their target.
• Parasite, which enters enemy brains and controls them.
• Also for Brotherhood, the
• Infector
• , which plants a parasite into enemy vehicles.

In next version, mod will have:

• The Brotherhood's Tunneling Platform. While being also a powerful base defense that can easily dismantle stationary targets, the main purpose of the Tunneling Platform is to open underground connection, allowing units to travel past all defenses into the enemy base. (The building does not yet have graphic and the Tunneling anim is still very bad)
• The Neutral Civilian Tech – errr – Tech Tech Center will enable Supply Drop, which you can use to drop money crate somewhere.

- Allied General (for custom breifing movies)


- Paladian Tank / Howitzer


- Molotov, new soviet hero:

(Yes, I HAVE permission to use the concept and code, and graphics are pubic assets!!!)

- Altenate Abrams (too close to Paladin Tank, and also wrong color scheme, but the original graphic isn't very good either - if you know good Abrams voxel, let me know!):


- Reference for movie and voxel selection:


- Concept for Cyberian Dawn banner


- Brotherhood Stingray Transport - Can fire missiles at air, immobilize ground units.

Edited by NCoder, 20 October 2008 - 10:58 AM.

[some_weirdGuy]

why are you showing us pavement? have you changed something or what? cause it looks exactly the same to me...

abrams tank looks a bit small i think

why is paladin yellow?


and please no...

hate when people use cartoon/anime in mods...

besides those few things, seems pretty good

[NCoder]

The fact is that pavement is deployed by an Engineer. I think that is a pretty new concept, though pretty realistic. I'm still working on that piece of the code, because as of yet, its not exctly as I want it to be (the patches of pavement being sprayed all around at random, insteado f placing them under his feet - can you imagine how long it took me to cover all that area with pavement you see on the picture? Plus it somehow messes up the ore).

Regarding the Abrams thingy... Do you mean first abrams voxel, or alternate voxel?

and please no...

hate when people use cartoon/anime in mods...

You mean, other people do this also? Tell me one mod, where is anime content? Like, do they have anime cameos, or use anime briefing movies? That would be fascinating to see. But if you tell me, I will take out the anime pieces from my mod.

Edited by NCoder, 20 October 2008 - 11:06 AM.

[some_weirdGuy]

http://www.cncgames....another_mcv.jpg

from here

http://www.cncgames....ered_tech.shtml

and Millenium said this:

Things I want this mod to have so badly:
* Movies (!!!) - Nothing fancy, I'm currently experimenting with doing some slideshows of manga-style drawings. I still have to find a way of converting them into the right format, though... I do however think that this would be quite a unique concept...

to be in his third power mod... thats when i about lost interest. absolutely hate manga/anime/etc in red alert 2, i dont know why, i just really dont like it. Seperate they are ok (well, im not a manga fan... but most of the shows i watched when i was a kid were anime... like dragon ball z and pokemon...good old pokemon )

its your mod, do what you want, but its just a personal think that i detest anime in C&C...
(oh, and i dont know if theres others, there might be but those are just the two things a remember connecting anime and C&C)

Edit: oh, and i meant first abram...

@guest: well, i never played dune, so...

Edited by some_wierdGuy, 21 October 2008 - 09:15 AM.

[NCoder]

absolutely hate manga/anime/etc in red alert 2, i dont know why, i just really dont like it. Seperate they are ok (well, im not a manga fan... but most of the shows i watched when i was a kid were anime... like dragon ball z and pokemon...good old pokemon )

its your mod, do what you want, but its just a personal think that i detest anime in C&C...

Well, then you will have problem with RA3, because AFAIK, the Japanese units are all modeled after japanese sci-fi animes...

[partyzanPaulZy]

Well, I have some problems with those King Onis. They are looking too much like Transformers.
And I also don't like like soviet tech in RA3 looks like. Crap. RA and RA2 sov. tech was pretty industrial and this ...

I think you should look for some better voxel of the Abrams, there are many of them and one which MO uses. I have found him somewhere, but I don't know where it was,
look into Resources list, there are plenty of nice public voxels. If you don't like blue colour, use pallete conversion in VXLSE_III.
And your Stingray transport has black dots syndrom, it can be fixed. Open latest VXLSE_III (1.38 I think), fill whole voxel by colour of the surface (otherwise you will get another dots) and use latest autonormal with range 2.1-2.7. If you use RA2 range, it will be more rounded, if you use TS range, it will be more cubical.

Edited by partyzanPaulZy, 21 October 2008 - 01:48 PM.

[some_weirdGuy]

Well, then you will have problem with RA3, because AFAIK, the Japanese units are all modeled after japanese sci-fi animes... tongue.gif

well i haven't played it, but thats sorta different as they are actual units not anime cameos & cinematics

[genobreaker]

it depends on how you will manipulate manga style for RA2...

since RA2 is Cartoonish like...

i think he's inspired with RA3's comic style pics ^__^

[NCoder]

Hmmm... I must interrupt the discussion for a quick update/help request! I was just going to include new cameo for Delta Force, new voxel for Abrams and code the special unit for Latin Confederation (Gemini Transport, sort of APC with Mirage and rocket launcher, good for jungle warfare in south america), when this IE launched itself at me:

Details:Eip:00784166	Esp:0013CBF8	Ebp:0013CD64Eax:00002525	Ebx:25252525	Ecx:00000001Edx:00000000	Esi:053A10E0	Edi:00000000EFlags:00010202 CS:001b  SS:0023  DS:0023  ES:0023  FS:003b  GS:0000

Maybe someone can help & tell me what went wrong? I also did a sweep of the VehicleTypes, InfantryTypes and AircraftTypes lists before the IE occured, reordering buildable units first, and then unbuildable, to get around the 100 units bug (before, all the AIs would start to build supply trucks in a frenzy).

Back to the briefings concept, would you like her for the briefings instead of anime pciture?:


She does look a bit like typical C&C briefings officer, and imagine the briefing to be given by subtitles, and also the mission location or other scenes etc will be blended in (though it might be messy with copyright stuff?)?

ag: don't use random girly pics

Edited by Allied General, 24 October 2008 - 01:35 PM.