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[Copaman]

@ SWG:

Secondly, Super Sprinters don't exist.

'Nuff said.


As for the introduction of the virus, I have an idea, taken straight from Halo 2 and 3 (Again, sorry. I just love the series. It's a bit of an obsession.). Zombies get to an airport, board a plane, and fly/crash it into the middle of London. That way we take care of the problem of international travel grounding to a halt when the news breaks. Or, alternatively, the infected managed to make it to London (assuming we're going to do London and not somewhere else) before news gets out that it hit the 'States.

Edited by Copaman, 11 January 2009 - 11:29 PM.

[Vortigern]

Anyway, im happy with London, its famous, it should have plenty of people to be infected, and its not like i know anywhere else better.
we could make our way all over the place... Europe has alot of countries close together, we could be trying to escape to somewhere else where maybe the infection hasn't reached last we know (like Australia )

Europe is actually a pretty big place. It's a whole fucking continent, you know. Compared to America we're packed in quite tightly, but European countries are still big places. It takes more than two weeks of trains to get from Spain to Greece, which suggests to me that it's not that small really. It annoys me when people make assumptions about my continent. Firstly, several different cultures under one title. Secondly, we don't like that title. Thirdly, especially not the British. Fourthly, Europe is actually very large. Fifthly, Russia is mostly not in Europe. That should cover everything you need to know.

[some_weirdGuy]

Its still got more countries packed into one small place then my country has states in a bigger area

and yeah, russia is mostly in asia

[Rafv Nin IV]

Europe isn't a continent--it's an oversized peninsula that happened to have better weapons than everyone else, plus smallpox. But we digress

[some_weirdGuy]

Oh noes, infected with smallpox!! run fer yur liveszor!

[Vortigern]

Europe is the cradle of civilisation as we know it, Ravnin. Nothing you take for granted in this life would exist were it not for Europeans, even your country as a whole. So don't knock Europe. (I know you were just joking around, but still. Americans knowing nothing about Europe and making elementary mistakes about it is one of my most aggravating pet hates. Like in the remake of War of the Worlds, Tom Cruise was like "I don't think they're from here," and his kid was like "What, like, Europe?" and it was meant to be funny, but it made me hate that abysmal pile of cinematic dump-taking even more.)

[Copaman]

Europe os the cradle of civilisation as we know it...

First of all: Vortigern, you should be ashamed for not even coming close to the correct spelling of 'was'

Secondly: Whatever happened to the Tigris and Euphrates, Babylon, and whatnot? Were those not the very first, the original, cradles of civilization? Maybe Europe was the beginning of civilization as we know it, but... [rightwingdoctrinemode] aw, hell, nobody likes the middle east. They're all a bunch of terrorists. So I guess you were right.[/rightwingdoctrine]

Somebody would have made it to what we now know as America eventually. Granted, our lives would be completely different if we had been settled by, say, France, than if we had been settled by England. The results we be slightly similar now that I think about it... a culture full of war-hating pussies... OK so being settled by Russia would have made things different... oh, wait... Maybe Spain. Yeah, Spain would make it all different.

Edited by Copaman, 12 January 2009 - 01:38 PM.

[Vortigern]

Firstly, that was meant to say 'is'. Have a look now. It was a simple typo, foo', what with I and O being next to you. Shame on you for not thinking of that. You should know by now that my spelling is perfect and I suffer from only the occasional typographic error.

Anyway, the Tigris and Euphrates, Sumeria, all that lot, it made fuck all difference to western civilisation. Well, I suppose it made some difference, but it was kinda like:

Sumeria -> Persia -> Greece -> Rome -> Western Europe -> 1082 years of evolution through the Dark Ages and early medieval period before we got to America.

Given how much was lost after the fall of Rome, I think we can safely say that western Europe was the base for modern civilisation. Not ancient civilisation, but times have changed since then. Do not presume to challenge my reasoning.

[Copaman]

Key words in my last post: AS WE KNOW IT

Obviously your soelling (sic) isn't quite perfect, now, is it?

[Fire Ze Missiles!]

Well this has deviated completely. Enough of this: Europe is better than you, wherever you might be, and secretly you know it, as all Europeans know that Britain is better than them. The end

Anyway, the reason I dislike 'boomers' as a concept is that a virus designed to survive would not willingly cause the destruction of its host body, regardless of how many other potential hosts it might be likely to infect in the process. Non-sentient life doesn't work like that to the best of my admittedly simplified knowledge.
BUT, don't worry about it being too easy. Trust me, I have some ideas in store for knew and different things to keep us entertained/dead. Also there's always the animal infected which I do intend to feature more of. Anywho, to start with there will only be the normal infected (so nobody go putting in crazy stuff too early) and we'll all be very lightly armed and generally pretty rubbish, surviving more through luck than judgement. It's only later, having got by for a while, that we begin to become awesome people.

Oh, and for your interest I always assumed it was a virus, which is essentially the same as a parasite just a lot smaller and harder to kill.

[Copaman]

And no mention of the planeflycrashingboomboomboomwtfzomgZOMBIEZZZZZz plan!?

I'm utterly speechless!

[Vortigern]

Are you really? Or are you just disappointed that you won't get to write about seeing a plane crash into Big Ben or something?

Note: NOTHING is crashing into Big Ben. FZM, back me up on this, I am not having our key landmarks destroyed so needlessly. Seeing it happen in Doctor Who was bad enough.

FZM: I fully second all your points. Let zombification begin anew!

[some_weirdGuy]

Enough of this: Europe is better than you, wherever you might be, Unless you are in Australia, and secretly you know it, as all Europeans know that Australia is better than them. The end smile.gif

Fix'd

Anyway, the reason I dislike 'boomers' as a concept is that a virus designed to survive would not willingly cause the destruction of its host body, regardless of how many other potential hosts it might be likely to infect in the process. Non-sentient life doesn't work like that to the best of my admittedly simplified knowledge.

I laugh at your lack of knowladge in this field *french laugh*


Every fatal disease/virus does exactly what you are saying they wouldn't do, which is kill the host body. Most kill the hosts without even increasing their infection rate.

Infectious and Parasitic diseases are the most common cause of death world wide, only outdone by Cardiovascular diseases. (see, i know my stuff)

And besides, 'boomers' wouldn't explode unless you 'pop' them, by shooting them or whatever. So until then they would act like a normal infected.

So it would sorta be like the virus's last chance backup plan.(if a virus was smart enough to actually 'plan' a backup plan)

Also there's always the animal infected which I do intend to feature more of. Anywho, to start with there will only be the normal infected

good to hear, and yeah, i agree normal infected should be around to start off with.

so its a no on super sprinters
its a yes to Banshees
its a yes on harder to kill infected?
and we're still arguing over boomers-without-vomit
(come on, add them, they make sense and would be awesome and add alot seen as we have no leaders)


oh and:

Zombies get to an airport, board a plane, and fly/crash it into the middle of London

we didn't really disscuss this, so lets go

how do we want the infection to make it to Europe.
1. infected on a plane?
"Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking Infected on this motherfucking plane!"

2. maybe by boat, as in, its the last boat to make it into Europe before the virus is heard about and all seaports/airports are closed? people who dont know about the infected come over, and when they get here be all like
"hey, old johno' ain't lookin to good back there, should we try to get him to a hospital and se... AGGH! He's Eating My Brains!!"

3. Shelling. Anyone played Halflife 2? cause i am, and in it the head crabs are sent into the area by shells. They(the 'bag guys') have these hollow missile things that land, and then the head crabs crawl out and get everyone.
The evil organisation in America could send out these missle things to other continents, and have them infected that way

4. Magic. So, no body knows how it got here, its just here, and thats all that matters...

pick an option, or make up one of your own, and then we can all decide. Then We Can Get This On The Road!

[Vortigern]

I am forced to disagree with you on many points, though I agree that an intelligent and ferocious virus, as this one seems to be, would likely come up with a backup defence mechanism, or at least evolve one later one. Maybe not until much later on in the storyline.

And I'm in favour of option 4. They're just here. It's a worldwide outbreak.

Oh, and I think it's a NO on harder-to-kill infected, just yet. Maybe they'll evolve that way later on. You've got to remember, this is going to be right back at the beginning.

[Copaman]

Are you really? Or are you just disappointed that you won't get to write about seeing a plane crash into Big Ben or something?

Note: NOTHING is crashing into Big Ben. FZM, back me up on this, I am not having our key landmarks destroyed so needlessly. Seeing it happen in Doctor Who was bad enough.

FZM: I fully second all your points. Let zombification begin anew!

I am not really. I just think it makes a cool mental picture - have you seen how they did it (twice, once with High Charity and once with the taken-over cruiser) in Halo? It was fucking awesome! It wouldn't have to be Big Ben... just smack in the center of town is enough.


And a second point: *queue American National Anthem and swell my chest with pride* At least the destruction of one of your national landmarks by airplane was faked on a television program. Ours was real, bud. I watched the second plane hit, live. If I went through it in real life, you should at least be able to endure the fiction two times over. America FTW! ...*looks at sig, listens to music, watches television, takes note of global opinion of the US*... Ok I'll shut up now...

Nevertheless, this thread has a point. I pick option 1. Infected on a Plane just has a ring to it. Maybe Samuel L Jackson himself could make a guest appearance? ..."And in other news, a zombie apocalypse has begun. The aeroplane crashed into Central London earlier today. It appears as if Samuel L Jackson, famous for his roles in Star Wars and Snakes on a Plane, was one of the first zombies killed by means of a shotgun. Colour and flavour and football and rugby and  unnecessary u's at the end of other words, wot wot!"

-> -> To save you guys from having to put up with my sarcastic Brit impressions, I'm going to be playing an American teen. Makes it easy for me, too, being the character already and whatnot.

[southsidediablo]

-> -> To save you guys from having to put up with my sarcastic Brit impressions, I'm going to be playing an American teen. Makes it easy for me, too, being the character already and whatnot.

Imma have to do this too. Sorry, I'm just redneck to the core, and can't do British impressions at all

[some_weirdGuy]

Yeah, all the 'more advanced' infected wont show up right away.


Also, i do think we definatly should have 'something worse' come out at night, something to give us a reason to not want to be out when its dark.
the super sprinters went on this idea, light-sensitive so they only come out when its dark... but bad ass, super dangerous, run-away-dont-fight-them, deal. adding a real danger factor to moving at night.

Thats why i suggested them.

Hey, what about infected that become more dangerous at night? maybe by day they are shamblers, but by night they turn into sprinters, or whatever?

I just want night time to be a big deal, as in, you dont want to go out at night time. Then at one point we can be stuck outside at night, and have to fight off whatever bad thing we decide happens at night.

[Copaman]

Zombies + Werewolves = FAIL.

We hardly moved at night to begin with, TBH.

[some_weirdGuy]

Who wants werewolves?
silly copa, they need a full moon, not night time...
Vampires are a better comparison

I still want light-sensitive infected that come out at night that are extra dangerous, its just something that i feel would add alot to this and make it more interesting
(we could have all these close calls where we nearly dont make it back before dark, or times when we have to go out at night and are all like "no, we cant do that, those things come out at night... if we go we're screwed" "oh but we have to!" *Dun Dun Daaa*, or at night we can hear them outside trying to find a way in)

That would just be awesome...

[southsidediablo]

Why can we not just have what we had before? Why do we need all these special infected? The story went on fine without them, it was just that people kind of dropped out every now and then, and most of the time, it was when it was needed most, and then the rest of us kinda just drifted off a bit. We never needed "light-sensitive" infected, we did perfectly fine with the shamblers and sprinters, and the "boss" infected created by that dude. But that's just my .02, probably ain't gonna be a deal breaker since you seem focused on having some sort of special movie-like infected, even when Fire Ze Missiles said he has some stuff in store, which I'm gonna guess is awesome. Ithankyou.