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#1 Phoenix Rising

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 07:56 AM

Due to our unique hero system, we have an opportunity to include a virtually limitless number of heroes without cluttering the interface or disrupting balance. The problem is, I can't do them all alone. So, here's your chance to get your name in the credits of PR and help us add some new heroes. All you need are some elementary Photoshop skills, and eye for detail, and some free time. If that sounds like you, here's what I ask you to do:

Instructions
  • Pick out a hero below and PM me with your choice, including your e-mail address and a reference to this thread in the message title. For logistical reasons, I need to know who is working on what so I don't end up with duplicates.
  • I will reply via e-mail with the corresponding hero image and mark it as checked out for work by putting your name after it. Note that you can only check out one image at a time.
  • You will erase the background of the image in Photoshop or a similar professional image-editing program. During this process, you'll be required to adhere to a list of guidelines in an effort to maintain consistency and quality. Failure to do so could prevent your image from being used.
  • When you're finished with the image, e-mail it back to me. If it meets the guidelines, I'll cross it off the list and you'll be free to check out another. If not, I'll tell you what's wrong with it.
  • Once it's approved, I'll turn your finished image into an icon and, eventually, an in-game hero unit.
Guidelines
  • Don't resize or crop the original image.
  • Don't apply any sort of adjustments (Brightness/Contrast, Hue/Saturation, Levels, etc.) to the original image.
  • Use the Eraser Tool or equivalent to remove the background by hand. Magic Wand and such won't cut it (no pun intended).
  • Erase the background to transparent opposed to painting it to a matte color.
  • Save the image as either a RGB + transparency (non-indexed) PNG or PSD.
Tips
  • You only need to carve out a bust-sized portion of the background for an icon. Don't bother going lower than the biceps or so on a full-body image.
  • While you can't adjust the original, you're encouraged to do whatever you want to a copy of it on another layer in order to better discern where the character ends and the background starts (some of these are kind of dark and may require guesswork). Adjustment layers are another good option, as long as you don't save them on.
  • I find it helps to keep a black and/or white layer underneath the image that you can turn on and off to see if you're erasing close enough. For example, on an image with a dark background, you should not see a black border around the character when you put it in front of a white layer.
  • Concave corners (as are common with hair outlines) are trouble to erase with a round brush. I try to copy the corner to another layer and take it one edge at a time. You might also try using some of the non-standard brushes.
Heroes

Galactic Empire / Imperial Remnant

Aban (no official image - on hold)
"Backstabber"
Bevel Lemelisk - Hirken
Brandei
Daine Jir
"Dark Curse"
Dorja
Freja Covell
Harbid (no official image - on hold)
Joruus C'baoth
Moradmin Bast (improvement)
Nahdonnis Praji - Hirken
Natasi Daala - Stygian
Raith Sienar
Rukh
Terrinald Screed
Titus Klev
Ysanne Isard - feld

Phoenix Rising Movement / Alliance to Restore the Republic / New Republic

Ackbar (improvement)
Afyon
Bria Tharen
Corran Horn
Dash Rendar
Davish Krail
Garik Loran
Garm Bel Iblis (improvement)
Gavin Darklighter - skie9173
Huoba Neva
Jon Vander
Keyan Farlander
Kyp Durron
Mon Mothma (improvement)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (improvement)
Shaak Ti
Syub Snunb
Tiree
Walex Blissex - Hirken

These are all of the heroes that I currently have icon-suitable images for, but I'll update it periodically as images get finished and I track down more. Feel free to use this thread to discuss who else you'd like to see in the mod, or anything else related to heroes.

Edited by Phoenix Rising, 29 August 2009 - 04:25 PM.


#2 Pred the Penguin

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:27 PM

Now I have to find my copy of Photoshop. o_o

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 07:44 PM

Rukh

YAYYYYY :thumbsupsmiley: My own personal Noghri...he's staying away from Thrawn though...

Some of my hero wish lists....

Did you ever add Winter???
Major Tierce for the Thrawn Campign
Booster just for the fun of a red star destroyer...
Ghent(if it is possible for if a hero is within a distance, he sees the defenses of other planets around him from slicing ability)
Drend Navett-the Imperial Intelligence head who destroyed the main Bothawui's sheild generators, would it be possibly to make an ability for him to slow down enemy build time on the planet that he is on, since he sabotages things?

Also...if your going to make a campign of the Hand of Thrawn Books...
Tierce (clone)
Moff Disra
Shada
Film

Also for Mara Jade, she could have an upgrade with a Skipray.


Now PR, thanks to you I need to get photoshop :wink_new:

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 09:45 PM

Some heros I'd like to see are:

The people who helped Ysanna Isard when she was in power
Kirtan Loor
General Evir Derricote

Seven of the ten original Jedi in Luke's New Jedi Order (two are already in and the other one is already mentioned here)
Brakiss
Gantoris
Streen
Dorsk 81
Kirana Ti
Tionne Solusar
Madurrin

New Republic Intelligence
Iella Wessiri
Airen Cracken
Wraith Squadron ( could be a upgrade for Garik Loran since he commanded them after Wedge)

The Grand Admirals
Martio Batch
Grant
Josef Grunger
Ishin-Il-Raz
Afsheen Makati
Danetta Pitta
Peccati Syn
Miltin Takel
Osvald Teshik
Rufaan Tigellinus

some heros I couldn't catogorize
Luuke
The 501st Legion
Red Hand Squadron (Could be a upgrade for Bria Tharen since she was their leader)

Edited by bob345, 11 January 2009 - 11:55 PM.


#5 Phoenix Rising

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:53 AM

Question: Where do you get your pictures from?

Grabbed them from the movies myself, or from the Internet (mostly Wookieepedia). I'm trying to use photos if possible, otherwise high-quality drawings. At some point I may put a shout-out for people able to create a likeness for someone who has no official image.

Did you ever add Winter???

I actually look into it, but couldn't decide what color her hair actually is. I know that sounds like nonsense, but I want to get it right. I'm sure she'll be up eventually.

Wraith Squadron ( could be a upgrade for Garik Loran since he commanded them after Wedge)

We're not doing named squadrons as such, mainly because of all the separate heroes involved, but, yeah, anyone who was in a notable squadron should be able to upgrade to command a similar unit. Kind of like how Rogue Squadron became a wing for a while. Same with the 181st, actually. So Garik would get Wraith Squadron X-wings to command, Tiree would get Gold Squadron Y-wings, "Backstabber" (Imperial fighter heroes apparently get no attention in the EU, save for a couple cases) would get Black Squadron TIEs, etc.

The 501st Legion

Daine Jir would get 501st Stormtroopers to command. Actually, he would probably normally be in armor for a battle like this guy.

Red Hand Squadron (Could be a upgrade for Bria Tharen since she was their leader)

Yup! I'm trying to get a lot of the early heroes down first, since there's so much of a knowledge gap between 18 BBY and 2 BBY or so.

Also, I just want to point out to no one in particular that I'm trying to make a clear distinction between factions here, so warlord Imperials won't be mixed with loyalist Imperials and such.

Edited by Phoenix Rising, 12 January 2009 - 12:58 AM.


#6 bob345

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:02 AM

Daine Jir would get 501st Stormtroopers to command. Actually, he would probably normally be in armor for a battle like


That's awsome I've wanted to beable to command part of the 501st.








Sorry for all my hero suggestions

Edited by bob345, 12 January 2009 - 02:05 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:45 AM

Sorry for all my hero suggestions

That's what this thread is for.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:27 PM

Oooh, a Bevel Lemelisk. Can you have it so he decreases upgrade times by 1/3 or something? BTW, I can't photoshop, so I'm not volunteering, just suggesting. :(

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#9 Tropical Bob

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:32 PM

Paint.NET is a nice program that should work just as well for this project. Check it out, and perhaps you'll be able to volunteer?

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:30 PM

Paint.NET is a nice program that should work just as well for this project. Check it out, and perhaps you'll be able to volunteer?

True, although some of these are more involved than others, so I wouldn't recommend them to a total newbie.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 03:56 AM

I actually look into it, but couldn't decide what color her hair actually is. I know that sounds like nonsense, but I want to get it right. I'm sure she'll be up eventually.

It is white, I just checked in the Heir to the Empire book (her first appearance) and in chapter 2 Zahn says she has white hair, I think since he created her, we can mostly assume it is suppose to be white.
Here is a good picture of her...

http://starwars.wiki...AsianWinter.jpg

also, if you are going for more of a blondish/white feel..

http://starwars.wiki...mage:Winter.jpg

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:11 AM

i'll try practicing alittle before i even think about making any commitments. i've done a little photo-shop stuff in the past but no promises.
at one point i was tryiying to make a pash cracken hero for awhile but never got it done yet. was even going to give him a 418 interdictor Memory of Ithor as a later upgrade, even if it would be alittle late for the timeline
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 01:25 PM

I actually look into it, but couldn't decide what color her hair actually is. I know that sounds like nonsense, but I want to get it right. I'm sure she'll be up eventually.

It is white, I just checked in the Heir to the Empire book (her first appearance) and in chapter 2 Zahn says she has white hair, I think since he created her, we can mostly assume it is suppose to be white.
Here is a good picture of her...

http://starwars.wiki...AsianWinter.jpg

also, if you are going for more of a blondish/white feel..

http://starwars.wiki...mage:Winter.jpg


Yeah, in one of the NJO books i was reading (a while ago) i think there was a part where Leia was trying to convince Ackbar to come out of retirement. I am pretty sure that it mentioned her having white hair then. It might of been in 'Destiny's Way"

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 04:39 AM

If you do decide to add the 501st Legion, could you think about adding in Col Serra and Renegade Squadron as the rebel equivilent?

Maybe some bounty hunters like IG-88 (steal him from the ZC ^^) for the Empire/Pirates/CSA...

Some pirate heroes like Jabba, Xizor... that kind of thing...

And maybe Lira Wessex and Walex Blissex for reseach heroes?

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:41 AM

If you do decide to add the 501st Legion, could you think about adding in Col Serra and Renegade Squadron as the rebel equivilent?

Maybe some bounty hunters like IG-88 (steal him from the ZC ^^) for the Empire/Pirates/CSA...


I would prefer Red Hand and Bria Tharen for a Rebel counter to the 501st. And not just because Renegade Squadron was from a Battlefront game, and not just because I am a fan of anything Han Solo related, but because they appear too late in the timeline, only after the Rebellion got entrenched. Bria Tharen showed up as part of the Corellian resistance, long before the Corellian Treaty got signed.

And sadly, IG-88 is from around Shadows of the Empire. And he is way too powerful as IG-88A was the second Death Star.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 11:35 AM

I don't really think of Red Hand or Renegade Squadron as the equivalent of the 501st, but both are related to Han Solo for what it's worth. Madine is probably the best option for that. He currently has Infiltrators, but they're not special anyhow.

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 12:34 AM

PR,

I'm making some progress on Isard in two to three minute blocks here and there. What's the due date on this?

r/
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Posted 04 February 2009 - 04:44 AM

Noticing the lack of help you're getting on this, I think I'll look through there on my free time one day and see what I can come up with using Paint.NET.

I can't promise anything amazing, because I think my hands have been shakier than usual lately.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:11 AM

Paint is very limited. I guess you could try ti on some random image first... =/

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 02:31 PM

I can't promise anything, but a mate of mine is pretty good in photoshop... i'll ask him later today if he has any free time atm (hes kinda busy right now)

I'd offer myself, but i really suck lol




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