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#21 Mathijs

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:05 PM

Pullman, me no likey. :p for religious reasons.

I actually haven't read the Eragon books. I'd like to, but don't have the time.

Anybody here read the Wheel of Time series? I've read the first two books, kind of wondered what everyone else thought of it. :shiftee:

Good job dismissing art on religious grounds.

I'm an atheist, but I sure as hell enjoy those epic and amazing religious paintings.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:06 PM

The last books I read was... Medicijnmeester and Ilios and How I met myself. Now I'm reading Het geheim van Rotterdam. Yes, all except How I met myself are Dutch books.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:08 PM

@ Vithar: Yep, I've read all three of the Obsidian Trilogy. One of my favorites. Have you read the two Phoenix books yet? They're sort of a sequel to the Obsidians. The sensationalization of the Obsidian heroes (Kellen and Idalia, for example) is hilarious, and the fact that the Armethaliehans are completely unaware that they used to be racist pigs is... well... even more funny. :p
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:30 PM

Well, that was to be expected, seeing as you are the leader of the Narnia mod. Apparently Pullman hates the Chronicles of Narnia, and His Dark Materials is supposed to be the polar opposite of it. It's "forbidden" to like them both. I do though (but HDM more)

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Actually, it has nothing to do with me being a Narnia fan. I didn't know about his apparent hatred for C. S. Lewis until after my opinion of him was settled.

In light of that, I found it rather ironic hearing that they played Narnia trailers before the Golden Compass movie, in essence trying to convince people that the two were basically the same stuff.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:40 PM

I read a book, once.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:46 PM

they don't bite, you know.... :p

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:47 PM

I saw a movie once, and there was a book and that was able to bite...
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:49 PM

that was a movie, not real life... :p

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:50 PM

Jeth, he means that Narnia is a pretty religious book.




His Dark Materials was great, Narnia was alright...I didn't love it, but I got through it.

Ender's game and series were amazing...though I didn't like the direct Ender sequels much, Bean's were much more exciting.

The Bartimaeous Trilogy anyone? Amulet of Samarkand, Golem's Eye, Ptolemy's Gate...great reads.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 09:19 PM

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:32 PM

@ Yoda: The Bartimaeus trilogy was fairly good. Not outstanding, but good enough for me to want to re-read it.

@ 2play: Ooh, that stuff looks interesting... :p
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:41 PM

Tales from the Perilous Realm is hardly new.
I have had the book for a while now.
It has to stories about Tom Bombadil the first was in his bachelor days :p

(Jeth Calark @ Jan 21 2009, 03:25 AM) *
Pullman, me no likey. thumbsdownsmiley.gif for religious reasons.

I actually haven't read the Eragon books. I'd like to, but don't have the time.

Anybody here read the Wheel of Time series? I've read the first two books, kind of wondered what everyone else thought of it. shiftee.gif


Good job dismissing art on religious grounds.

I'm an atheist, but I sure as hell enjoy those epic and amazing religious paintings.


Ha I knew if anything would get Matias to post that would.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:46 PM

Heh... society is kind of like that.

Bashing Christians=good.
Being a Christian=not politically correct.


Therefore, it sucks being a Christian in today's world. :p

Of course, it doesn't stop us... :p Right, Jeth?

... still, we stray off course. Let us return to discussing BOOKS.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 11:19 PM

Doesn't have much to do with christianity, more with people who don't seem to understand that enjoying art =/= real life. Fiction isn't real. Kind of makes you come across as that little kid who, whenever he hears something he doesn't want to hear or face, puts his hands over his hears and goes ''BLABLABLAIMRIGHTYOUAREWRONGBLABLAICANTHEARYOU''.

Also, there MIGHT just be a reason why being so Christian you refuse to read or see anything that doesn't agree with you is ''incorrect''.

Open mind > Closed mind. Yeah, I read the Bible, have you read something like The God Delusion? Didn't think so.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:17 AM

...*sigh* BOOKS. Let's not get into a religious flamewar here. You've made your point. Moving on... to BOOKS.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:44 AM

The Bible and The God Delusion are books...

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:49 AM

So is HMD :p

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:54 AM

Can't say I've read the God Delusion.

So this topic is about "fantasy" books right?

I don't read that many fantasy books but I've read a few others lately

Stuff white people like - funny and scarily true
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Things I overheard while talking to myself - Alan Alda (great book first time I read I liberally couldn't put it down.
Plus the odd Asterix book from time to time always had a weakness for them :p

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:03 AM

There IS a good reason why I haven't read The God Delusion: never heard of it. Although I think I know the basic gist of it..... :shiftee:

In general though, the reason is this. To you, as an atheist, all books pretty much have the same value, spiritually talking. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that)

As a Christian though, I have a personal relationship with God and Jesus (who are the same person anyways). To keep up that relationship, I need to continuously grow closer to God, which means I have to become Christ-like (like Jesus). Right now, it doesn't matter if you believe that or not, that's just where I'm operating from.

Obviously, reading books with anti-God and anti-Jesus messages or views does NOT help me get closer to God nor become Christ-like. Honestly, the ONLY reason I would read a book like that would be to approach it logically, in the expectation of finding faulty reasoning.

Not to say all Christians think alike. Some Christians though Harry Potter was okay. There's some that don't like LOTR. Heck, there's even one I know that doesn't like Narnia because it has mythological creatures from Greek myths! How unusual is that? :crazed:

I do respect you as a person, Matias, especially since you said you've read the Bible. Pretty much all the atheists I've known won't look at one, much less touch or open one. ;)

(My apologies to those who were waiting on my reply. I usually don't have the time to type out long, complicated posts when I'm on the computer. :p )

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 05:00 AM

Maybe we should just start a religion thread get the monkey off T3A's back once and for all :shiftee:

I do find it funny and somewhat appropriate that we are discussing the bible in a section about fantasy books :crazed:

I like Matias am an Atheist but probably not as "fundamentalist" as him (couldn't think of a better word)
I accept my lack of faith and don't particularly care if others do have it power to them.
I actually enjoy Theology as a interest I find it very interesting ;)

But back on topic.

I like books :p
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