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#1 Rob38

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:44 AM

Faction Balance Changes

  • Army of the Dead recharge time has increased from 6 to 9 minutes
  • Army of the Dead speed reduced from 65 to 50
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  • Elven Mist recharge time has increased from 6 to 9 minutes
  • Elven Mist attack duration has been reduced from 30 seconds to 20 seconds
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  • The Balrog summon recharge time has increased from 6 to 9 minutes
  • Balrog's regular attack against buildings has been reduced from 1600 (1000 from FLAME and 600 from STRUCTURAL) to 1200 (600 from FLAME and 600 from STRUCTURAL)
  • Balrog's attack against normal units has been reduced from 1800 (1000 NORMAL and 800 from FLAME) to 1200 (600 from NORMAL and 600 from FLAME)
Will update official balance change list as needed. :p

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 08:34 PM

Please, please, pleeeeeeeease greatly nerf superweapons.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 08:50 PM

I agree. They really ruin late game for me. They should do a lot less damage, or rather, removed completely in favour of some passive unit buff or something. But seeing as this is more of balance update, just have them do less damage.

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:14 AM

What are superweapons? 'Pults and trebs?
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:19 AM

AotD and Balrogs.

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 03:30 AM

Meh, I'd say keep the damage, but lower the time even more.

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:11 AM

I'd rather lower the damage for the balrog. It doesn't make a lot of sense for the AoTD.
However, if you shorten the time they'll get useless pretty fast.
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Posted 06 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

Maybe decrease the AotD's movement speed. Right now they catch up with anything you try to move away from them.

I just hate losing completely upgraded and varied armies over and over again.

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 09:20 PM

Maybe a much, much longer reload time then?

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:09 PM

That would nerf em good as well, yeah.

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 10:49 PM

Could you possibly change the AotD's attack from magic (or whatever it is) to something on its own. Then change the damage they do to each unit (weak against heros, upgraded upper-tier units. Strong against Un-upgraded/lower tier).

It would take the most work, so I won't suggest this as the primary plan.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:23 AM

The thing I hate is Isengard ballista rush. Maybe increase their cost?
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:08 AM

Same here. Same thing occurs with Mordor, whose pults are much more high quality than anything else on the field.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 02:25 PM

Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Mordor's 'pults should be the weakest ones out there, but in almost all of the mods I've played they put the other factions to shame. They don't even need upgrades... :p It's not... fair... ;) :p
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 02:32 AM

They can't even get upgrades.

There's also the matter of the Rohan peasant rush, which will utterly destroy the Elves early-game, or even Isengard if the person controlling them is good.
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 02:54 AM

Peasent rush is fine. Isen's is far worse, and I can handle that. Agasint elves anyways.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 04:27 PM

They can't even get upgrades.

There's also the matter of the Rohan peasant rush, which will utterly destroy the Elves early-game, or even Isengard if the person controlling them is good.

I've never been utterly destroyed by a peasant rush... I don't think it's that bad.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:50 PM

I have once, but that was only because I was playing two people all by my lonesome. One uruk rushed me, the other peasent :p

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:07 AM

Meh, whatever. There are more pressing issues... like lowering the price of Arwen. She's worth less than Haldir to me. She either needs a bigtime armor buff or to have about 400-500 knocked off her price tag.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:03 AM

To you. She's proven herself more useful to others. Ever gone orc-bowling with her? Didn't think so.

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