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[*Ranger*]

i didnt know where to ask this so i put it here.

I always thought the amon sul map was small and unempressive, so i am attempting to make it into a fortresslooks like it should, a fortress that stopped the Witch-king's amies from conquering the north for years. But i need some advise on what size is ok for most people, because i dont know. Thanks

This is the resizing:
600 horizontal
475 vertical
amon sul fortress
2nd pic

Edited by *Ranger*, 21 February 2009 - 02:23 PM.

[{IRS}Athos]

I think that Amon Sul Fortress should be a playable map in WotR if you're playing the Fall of Arnor scenario... having it ruined already just doesn't make sense.

On the subject of your map, it looks a bit like overlapping squares right now, but I'm sure you plan to fix that. Also, you may want to add a back wall so the enemy can't just come in through the swamp.

Edited by ithilienranger732, 21 February 2009 - 02:53 PM.

[Neth]

I like it alot more than the original version. Good work

*Ithilien, haven't seen you in ages. Hi

Edited by Nethelen Narcu, 21 February 2009 - 02:56 PM.

[{IRS}Athos]

@ Nethelen: I've been around... but you may not have been.

@ Ranger: I missed the "small and unimportant" part... and I agree that the fortress should definitely have been a bit bigger. Maybe add a second line of walls, since it was the master fortress of the border defenses and you really don't get enough building room?

[*Ranger*]

This is after about 2 minuites work, i just copied the terrain and made it bigger, im going to add more walls and do alot more to it

EDIT: With more walls

Edited by *Ranger*, 21 February 2009 - 03:53 PM.

[{IRS}Athos]

I'm assuming that the south wall segment will eventually arc around and hit the west side of the map... am I correct?

[*Ranger*]

ummm yeah, im going to make the lake bigger and make the wall hit it

[{IRS}Athos]

Nah, a wall hitting a lake wouldn't make much sense. Perhaps the walls could close off the lake, and you could have it hit a series of hills on the western edge.

[*Ranger*]

hmmm, yeah that sounds much better

[Puppeteer]

Add in some walkable walls/improvised walkable walls.

[*Ranger*]

Improvised walkable walls?

This is what i have done so far:
Amon sul

Can anyone tell me how to make the border bigger, because its cutting off the back of the fortress?

[Devon]

Either File or Edit, find resize, and change the map border setting.


You may also be able to drag a corner of the border.

[*Ranger*]

Thanks, i couldn't make the border bigger so i just coppied the terrain, it took a while but it less annoying.

I obviously have to do alot of texturing work, but if anyone has any ideas on how to make it better, im all ears.

Amon sul



Edit: This is my redesign of amon sul, this is just the start but i think you get the idea
Re-design

Edited by *Ranger*, 21 February 2009 - 08:47 PM.

[{IRS}Athos]

I would keep the original walls, but make them walkable. The second circle of walls could be the regular ones with the towers.

[*Ranger*]

I have no idea how to make them walkable, but i did make it a stronger fortess

amon sul

Amon sul top view

[Puppeteer]

Either add in new walls, or improvise with raising terrain and placing objects in front of that.

[Neth]

The newest version is really good, although i think that you should make the walls walkable (i don't know how but you could ask someone)

[Florisz]

Maybe make some more walls at the back, it looks like it is really weak there. I mean, if you fight against Dwarves with Undermine, you won't stand long you know. And it would look more realistic.

[{IRS}Athos]

If you're going to use different walkable walls, I'd use Minas Tirith's, personally. Putting a wall circle around the tower with perhaps two gates would work wonders for the fortress. (Two gates in different places would also give it a unique feel, rather than carbon-copies like MT/MM in BFMEII.)

[Vithar-133]

Looks pretty good, to tell the truth.

Although, I was thinking that a concentric castle might be good for Amon Sul.

Basically, a two level MT kinda thing.